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New Iraq Chief: Evidence Linking Saddam to 9/11 is 'Genuine'
Newsmax ^ | June 2, 2004

Posted on 06/02/2004 7:55:41 PM PDT by Zechariah11

The man tapped to head Iraq's new interim government is vouching for the authenticity of evidence that links Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks.

Though the notion that Iraq played a role in 9/11 is considered heresy in U.S. intelligence circles, newly appointed Iraq Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said Tuesday that a document purported to be from Saddam's intelligence service that places lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta in Baghdad two months before the attacks was indeed "genuine."

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," Allawi told the London Telegraph. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

According to the Telegraph, Prime Minister Allawi said the document was "genuine."

As first reported by the Telegraph in Dec. 2003, the document - a handwritten memo, dated July 1, 2001 - provides a short resume of a three-day "work program" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's terrorist training camp in Baghdad.

Nidal was executed by Saddam's secret police in August 2002 in what some suspect was a bid to keep him from telling what he knew about 9/11.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; abunidal; allawi; alqaedaandiraq; ayadallawi; iraq; leadhighjacker; mohammedatta; nidal; primeministeriraq; saddamand911
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1 posted on 06/02/2004 7:55:42 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11

I can't wait to hear the liberals say Ayad Allawi is a Bush stooge.


2 posted on 06/02/2004 7:57:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

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3 posted on 06/02/2004 7:59:28 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: goldstategop
I can't wait to hear the liberals say Ayad Allawi is a Bush stooge.

They'd rather believe Saddam's stooge, the pedophile Scott Ritter....

4 posted on 06/02/2004 7:59:41 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: Zechariah11

Not true. See-BS, the Comrade News Network, ABC, NBC, PMSNBC, and the Democrats have all said there is no connection between Saddam and Al-Qaeda. /sarcasm


5 posted on 06/02/2004 8:01:33 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Zechariah11
YOOOHOOOO....

Dimmies.....where ....are....you????

Media.......where ....are....you????

Europe......where.....are....you????

ROPE A DOPES.

6 posted on 06/02/2004 8:03:22 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Countries around the world are ALIENATING ME...an American!)
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To: Zechariah11

Anyone who can not see a connection is just blind


7 posted on 06/02/2004 8:04:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Zechariah11

Quick & Dirty Listing of Connections:

Atta in Baghdad.
Atta meets w/Iraqi Spy in Czech Republic.
Iraqi Mukhabbarat Colonel at the 9/11 planning meeting in Jakarta.

What are the other easy gimmes?


8 posted on 06/02/2004 8:10:44 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam: Nothing BEER couldn't cure.)
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To: freebilly
We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," Allawi told the London Telegraph. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks
Worth repeating
9 posted on 06/02/2004 8:12:56 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls - Proof that when the Main Stream Media wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: Zechariah11

beyond huge. don't wait for the NYT to report it.


10 posted on 06/02/2004 8:14:18 PM PDT by beebuster2000 (the only thing quagmired is the lib mind)
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To: beebuster2000

it won't be a story unless Bush himself makes the case.


11 posted on 06/02/2004 8:15:47 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Zechariah11

Will this even be mentioned in the mainstream media? When Tom Hamill at his homecoming in Macon, MS, praised Bush, the news stories left that out; when that Iraqi leader yesterday thanked the US, the networks made no mention of it, according to Brit Hume this evening.


12 posted on 06/02/2004 8:20:55 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: freebilly

Whatever happened to the paid turncoat?


13 posted on 06/02/2004 8:21:56 PM PDT by dila813
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To: oceanview

I don't even see this story in the London Telegraph, from which Newsmax says it was reported. I hope Newsmax is not recycling old news from last December.


14 posted on 06/02/2004 8:22:19 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: Azzurri


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%2Fnews%2F2003%2F12%2F14%2Fwterr14.xml


15 posted on 06/02/2004 8:29:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Azzurri

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36124

Posted: December 13, 2003

Mohammed Atta, the hijacker believed to be the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, was trained in Baghdad by Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal, claims Iraq's coalition government.


16 posted on 06/02/2004 8:29:57 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: freebilly
They'd rather believe Saddam's stooge, the pedophile Scott Ritter


Isn't that the guy the wanted to demonstrate is cleverness by showing some teenage girls that he knew how to masturbate?


sharp as a marble he is!
17 posted on 06/02/2004 8:33:57 PM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: Azzurri

so youre saying it may not be a genuine story?


18 posted on 06/02/2004 8:39:21 PM PDT by beebuster2000 (the only thing quagmired is the lib mind)
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To: beebuster2000
so youre saying it may not be a genuine story?

No, I absolutely believe the story to be true. However, Newsmax says "newly appointed Iraq Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said Tuesday that a document purported to be from Saddam's intelligence service that places lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta in Baghdad two months before the attacks was indeed "genuine." I can't find the story on the London Telegraph where Allawi made this statement yesterday (i.e. Tuesday). I've been burned before by Newsmax so I'm looking for a direct link (recent) to point out as evidence to liberals.

19 posted on 06/02/2004 8:47:33 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: oceanview
it won't be a story unless Bush himself makes the case.

You're right. So when will the CIC comment?

20 posted on 06/02/2004 8:48:30 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: stocksthatgoup
"...It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

Yes, but where are the WMD's?

Oh..., we found those...? Well, we must have planted them...!

21 posted on 06/02/2004 9:02:29 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: WHBates

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22 posted on 06/02/2004 9:07:32 PM PDT by ASA Vet (The "FreeRepublic French" would rather our grandchildren decide which culture is to survive.)
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To: dila813
Ritter's busy giving interviews to Pravda... Sarin Bomb a Dud Claims Pedophile
23 posted on 06/02/2004 9:09:25 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: Azzurri

If you read the Newsmax story closely, You'll see that they don't source Allawi's Tuesday statement to the Telegraph.

The attributions to the Telegraph are only the quotations and references to the December 19 2003 story.

There is no source mentioned for the statement of Allawi on Tuesday- perhaps he stated it directly to a Newsmax reporter. This needs to be clarified.


24 posted on 06/02/2004 9:17:35 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Zechariah11

I dare the mainstream media to report this. DARE THEM.


25 posted on 06/02/2004 9:25:19 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

"I dare the mainstream media to report this. DARE THEM."

I think you'll need a triple dog dare to even get it on the NYTimes inside pages. That or get the editor extremely drunk and compliant.


26 posted on 06/02/2004 9:32:01 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Brad Cloven

less than two months before 9/11/01, the state-controlled Iraqi newspaper “Al-Nasiriya” carried a column headlined, “American, an Obsession called Osama Bin Ladin.” (July 21, 2001)

In the piece, Baath Party writer Naeem Abd Muhalhal predicted that bin Laden would attack the US “with the seriousness of the Bedouin of the desert about the way he will try to bomb the Pentagon after he destroys the White House.”

The same state-approved column also insisted that bin Laden “will strike America on the arm that is already hurting,” and that the US “will curse the memory of Frank Sinatra every time he hears his songs” – an apparent reference to the Sinatra classic, “New York, New York”.

That and a hundred or so other links here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127451/posts


27 posted on 06/02/2004 9:32:22 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: swilhelm73

Your link to worldnetdaily.com malfunctioned when I tried it. Would you test it and repost if there is a correction? Thanks.


28 posted on 06/02/2004 9:34:32 PM PDT by American Sovereignty Defender (I'm voting FOR Bush - before voting AGAINST Kerry)
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To: WOSG

LOL.

The NYT has become nothing more than DNC stenographers - dutifully taking down every talking point.

They don't have an investigative reporter worth two cents.


29 posted on 06/02/2004 9:34:43 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: freebilly
Yeah...I'm still waiting to hear followup on the Sarin gas explosion in Iraq.

Although it's pretty tough to "followup" on a story that was never printed/broadcast to begin with.

30 posted on 06/02/2004 9:37:31 PM PDT by daler
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To: John Valentine
If you read the Newsmax story closely, You'll see that they don't source Allawi's Tuesday statement to the Telegraph. The attributions to the Telegraph are only the quotations and references to the December 19 2003 story.

You're right, though I assure all there was no attempt to mislead. The Allawi quotes come from a Dec. 14, 2003 Telegraph report, which was emailed to me. I checked the link but not the date and assumed it was current.

The Ayad Allawi in question, however, is the same man in both cases. What's important is that we now know that the man who was chosen to lead Iraq last week believes Saddam played a key role in 9/11 (whether our leadership wants to say so or not).

Carl/NM

Corrected NewsMax copy has been posted as follows:

New Iraq Chief: Evidence Linking Saddam to 9/11 is 'Genuine'

The man tapped to head Iraq's new interim government has vouched for the authenticity of evidence that links Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks.

Though the notion that Iraq played a role in 9/11 is considered heresy in U.S. intelligence circles, newly appointed Iraq Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said in Decemeber that a document purported to be from Saddam's intelligence service that places lead 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta in Baghdad two months before the attacks was indeed "genuine."

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," Allawi told the London Telegraph at the time. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

As reported by the Telegraph at the time, the document - a handwritten memo, dated July 1, 2001 - provides a short resume of a three-day "work program" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's terrorist training camp in Baghdad.

Nidal was executed by Saddam's secret police in August 2002 in what some suspect was a bid to keep him from telling what he knew about 9/11.

31 posted on 06/02/2004 9:46:38 PM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
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To: daler

There was some 'Rat apologist on H&C tonight that refered to the Sarin packed missle as basically an insignificant find...even when they are shown weapons that were/had been in "material breech" they blow it off as "nothing to see here"!!


32 posted on 06/02/2004 9:47:23 PM PDT by FlashBack (USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA...USA..USA...USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: dagoofyfoot

Q: What does Ritter the liar have in common with Ritter the Burger King pervert?

A: Both cases prove Ritter knows how to handle a Whopper....


33 posted on 06/02/2004 9:53:44 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: goldstategop
I can't wait to hear the liberals say Ayad Allawi is a Bush stooge.

You shouldn't have a long wait. The only way they would agree that he wasn't is if he started his own militia to fight coalition troops, and even then, they would say that it was Bush's fault for letting the Iraqis choose an anti-American guy.

Remember how Rush said that the Clinton Administration seemed to live by the mission statement, "How can we fool them today?" The mainstream media is living to "How can we spin this against GWB?"

34 posted on 06/02/2004 11:34:25 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Zechariah11

'Rat media will now counter that there is no proof of any visits unless Iraqi utility bills and voter registration cards in the hijacker's names can be produced.


35 posted on 06/02/2004 11:43:28 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: Azzurri

If you read what you yourself posted, NewsMax DOES NOT SAY that Allawi's Tuesday staement comes from the Telegraph, and you won't find it there, either.

Note that the new NewsMax story deletes the "Tuesday" reference.


36 posted on 06/03/2004 1:11:06 AM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: American Sovereignty Defender

Hmm, works fine for me. Can you normally get to WND?


37 posted on 06/03/2004 1:32:06 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Can you give any updates on the second part of the memo, regarding the "Niger shipments" and the secret meeting between Syria and Iraqi heads of state?


38 posted on 06/03/2004 2:12:07 AM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Leftist media spin:

Documents were forged; Saddam (the secularist) had Nadil killed because he was a fundamentalist Muslim.

Some Democrats' interpretation:

Since Nadil was a Palestinian, the USA got what it deserved because for supporting Israel.








39 posted on 06/03/2004 2:21:40 AM PDT by Susannah (Have you thanked a soldier lately for your freedom?- www.amillionthanks.org)
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To: Zechariah11

The liberals can't allow this to stand because their mantra is that nothing Bush has done since 9/11 is sensible. God forbid that we protect ourselves. They can't come out and say what they want to, that we should simply hand over our sovereignty to the UN. My liberal son is visiting from New Zealand and all I've heard is that America is the world's biggest threat to stability...oh, and the Jews and Bush are behind everything. He's giving me hives.


40 posted on 06/03/2004 2:28:10 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey
My liberal son is visiting from New Zealand...He's giving me hives.

LOL! I had my liberal mother visit last week. I'm still itching.

41 posted on 06/03/2004 3:36:01 AM PDT by livius
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To: Carl/NewsMax
How can you get a reporter to ask Allawi the question again? Can you call his office and get a statement?
42 posted on 06/03/2004 3:44:29 AM PDT by snooker (John Flipping Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: Zechariah11
YIPPIE
KI
YO

V537

43 posted on 06/03/2004 3:55:23 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Never forget 9/11. Thank You to our Military, Police & Firefighters for keeping our Country FREE! !)
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To: Voter#537

I loved Die Hard, too. :-)


44 posted on 06/03/2004 4:04:04 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Zechariah11
I've never doubted a relationship existed, to what extent was my only open question.

Things are becoming very clear a little more than a year after the start of the war.

- The UN was on the take; the lifting of sanctions was more probable than the enforcing of them.
- WMD's and banned Conventional weapons (and programs to develop them) did exist.
- Iraq and Al-Queda did work together.

Saddam was a terrorist, Saddam did not comply with the original disarmament resolution, Saddam wished to inflict pain on the US and its citizens.

How can anyone be surprised, all the indications were there prior to the invasion.
45 posted on 06/03/2004 4:22:42 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Zechariah11
Terrorist behind September 11 strike was trained by Saddam
By Con Coughlin
(Filed: 14/12/2003)


Iraq's coalition government claims that it has uncovered documentary proof that Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks against the US, was trained in Baghdad by Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist.



Details of Atta's visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in US history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service.

The handwritten memo, a copy of which has been obtained exclusively by the Telegraph, is dated July 1, 2001 and provides a short resume of a three-day "work programme" Atta had undertaken at Abu Nidal's base in Baghdad.

In the memo, Habbush reports that Atta "displayed extraordinary effort" and demonstrated his ability to lead the team that would be "responsible for attacking the targets that we have agreed to destroy".

The second part of the memo, which is headed "Niger Shipment", contains a report about an unspecified shipment - believed to be uranium - that it says has been transported to Iraq via Libya and Syria.

Although Iraqi officials refused to disclose how and where they had obtained the document, Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq's ruling seven-man Presidential Committee, said the document was genuine.

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," he said. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

Although Atta is believed to have been resident in Florida in the summer of 2001, he is known to have used more than a dozen aliases, and intelligence experts believe he could easily have slipped out of the US to visit Iraq.

Abu Nidal, who was responsible for the failed assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982, was based in Baghdad for more than two decades.
46 posted on 06/03/2004 7:21:36 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: Azzurri; Cindy

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/14/wterr14.xml

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/14/wterr114.xml


47 posted on 06/03/2004 7:28:30 AM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: Zechariah11

BUMP


48 posted on 06/03/2004 7:42:55 AM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("I think the country will evolve." -Teresa Heinz Kerry on gay marriage)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Countdown to naysaying by you know who...


49 posted on 06/03/2004 7:44:08 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Rush may be "show prep for the media", but FR is show prep for RUSH!)
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To: oceanview
it won't be a story unless Bush himself makes the case

Exactly my point, unless Bush brings this to the voters it will never be revealed and the average american voter will vote for Kerry just because......

50 posted on 06/03/2004 7:53:18 AM PDT by pctech
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