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To: DCPatriot

Living in South Florida, I went to the Gonzales home while it was surounded and cordoned off by the police. I met Elian's uncle and prayed with him. His hands were calloused from his daily regimen of hard work in an auto repair shop. I am a protestant and he is Roman Catholic. We both had a common point of agreement that the Island Prison of atheistic communist Cuba is no place for a little boy to have to grow up.

Elian's mother died trying to bring her son to Miami to his uncles and to freedom, when the raft she was floating on fell apart. In the Island Prison, she was raising Elian without the help of the boy's father who never married her and had little involvement in the boy life. No written will could have stated any more clearly whom she intended to have custody of the boy in the event of her demise. She and the father had been in contact with the uncle's in Miami planning the escape to freedom.

To say that Elian was sent back to Cuba because of parental rights is a wretched joke perpetrated upon Elian, for in Cuba there are no parental rights. The communist State literaly owns all the children.

When Clinton, Reno and all their jack-booted thugs broke the door down without a proper warrant, pepper sprayed its peaceful, law abiding occupants and kidnapped little Elian Gonzales back to the Island Prison, they did America a great favor in an ironic way: it cost Al Gore the presidency and saved the USA.

God Bless little Elian who may never know freedom again. He was a brave little boy betrayed by vicious liberals who stole his freedom. He is a ward of the state, is not in the home of his father who now has little interaction with the son with whom he was never truly re-united.


51 posted on 06/06/2004 6:59:36 AM PDT by Radtechtravel
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To: Radtechtravel
Excellent portrayal, the house was treated as a near shrine for the longest time,I still can't get over the pony-tailed male that was on the plane to take Elian back to Cuba--a high-ranking member of the Methodist Church--Hitlary is Methodist, I was but am not quite sure now.
54 posted on 06/06/2004 7:09:49 AM PDT by rodguy911 ( President Regan---all the rest.)
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To: Radtechtravel
http://i.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/yip2000/images/apr1.jpg
 
Photo Gallery of the Elian Saga

56 posted on 06/06/2004 7:10:40 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Radtechtravel
I didn't know of Freerepublic back when the Elian Gonzalez thing was going on so I have no first-hand knowledge of the discussions that went on in this forum about it. I've been very surprised, though, to learn via second-hand accounts (perhaps exaggerated) that most Freepers were opposed to returning the boy to his father. Not to single you out, Radtechtravel, but your post was interesting in several respects.

We both had a common point of agreement that the Island Prison of atheistic communist Cuba is no place for a little boy to have to grow up.

Few would disagree with this, I suppose, but notice how adherence to this belief tends to skew opinions on other issues (below).

Elian's mother died trying to bring her son to Miami to his uncles and to freedom, when the raft she was floating on fell apart.

In other words, Elian's mother and the group she was with were attempting to enter the country illegally. Were they Mexicans who died of thirst in the middle of the desert or suffocated in the back of a truck, I suspect many Freepers would not describe their plight in such terms ("trying to attain freedom") and would be considerably less sympathetic.

In the Island Prison, she was raising Elian without the help of the boy's father who never married her and had little involvement in the boy life.

In other words, she was a single mother. In other threads on this forum I've seen women in this situation described as "sluts" and "whores."

No written will could have stated any more clearly whom she intended to have custody of the boy in the event of her demise. She and the father had been in contact with the uncle's in Miami planning the escape to freedom.

If the father had so little involvement in the boy's life, it's rather surprising that he was involved in the escape plan. My memory of the situation is that the boy was taken by the mother without the father's knowledge.

To say that Elian was sent back to Cuba because of parental rights is a wretched joke perpetrated upon Elian, for in Cuba there are no parental rights. The communist State literaly owns all the children.

I'd tend to say that most Americans were operating under an American conception of parental rights, not a Cuban one. On other threads on FR father's rights are considered sacrosanct. Why not in this situation?

its peaceful, law abiding occupants

Peaceful and law abiding? Didn't the family refuse to cooperate with the law at every turn? Didn't they lock the boy in the house so as to prevent him from being taken peacefully?

Just some observations.

73 posted on 06/06/2004 8:11:41 AM PDT by Karyn M. PhD
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To: Radtechtravel

" When Clinton, Reno and all their jack-booted thugs broke the door down without a proper warrant, pepper sprayed its peaceful, law abiding occupants and kidnapped little Elian Gonzales back to the Island Prison, they did America a great favor in an ironic way: it cost Al Gore the presidency and saved the USA. "

Notice how these three freaks, Clinton(jail bait predator), Reno(transgender) and Al Gore(dimbulb) never actually were hands on parents. I still think Janet Reno is a man in drag with meat and potatoes between her/his/its legs (barf).


78 posted on 06/06/2004 8:22:48 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Radtechtravel

Penelas was a local rising star when I was living there 10 years ago.

Why is he running as a Dem....?

district demographics?

It's a tightrope walk to get the conservative Cuban vote and please the Jews, Blacks, and now I hear many Brasilians there.

Who was the mayor before him who lived in the Grove and had a home invasion robbery at his house?


98 posted on 06/06/2004 9:10:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: Radtechtravel
He is a ward of the state, is not in the home of his father who now has little interaction with the son with whom he was never truly re-united.

Do you know this for a provable fact? Last I heard, Elian and his father shared a home.

100 posted on 06/06/2004 9:23:24 AM PDT by beckett
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To: Radtechtravel

To say that Elian was sent back to Cuba because of parental rights is a wretched joke perpetrated upon Elian, for in Cuba there are no parental rights. The communist State literaly owns all the children.




Would that apply to American mothers who have had middle eastern fathers kidnap their children and not return them.
America is a cesspool culture and the Saudi father and government know best how to raise children?

I don't know why people keep referring to "Little Havana" as America.Only the cousin has assismilated enough to bother learning english. They have nothing to do with Americans. Most have no education.
The father decided his son had a better future under Castro,
than growing up in a drug infested, crime infested ghetto.
He has that right.


118 posted on 06/06/2004 12:52:55 PM PDT by Bogey
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