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We’re Not Gen-X, We’re Gen-Reagan
6/7/04 | Cinnamon Girl

Posted on 06/07/2004 1:31:59 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

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To: hispanarepublicana
I don't know where you were during the '70s, but I wouldn't term those times "prosperous" for my family by any stretch.

Anecdotes don't change the fact that as a nation we haven't seen anything like the Great Depression since the '30s, and that in general, the character of those who grew up during that period were shaped by it.

Those who grew up during the Depression didn't want their kids -- the Baby Boomers -- to experience anything of the hardships they remembered all too clearly. Instead, as most parents do, they wanted their kids to share in their prosperity, the likes of which they could only dream about during their own childhood.

The Boomers, being that much further removed from the Depression, knowing little if anything about real hardship, raise(d) their kids accordingly.

Of course, these are generalities. Even in times of great prosperity, there are people who don't prosper. Individual hardship doesn't have the same affect on a generation or a nation as that of national hardship.

161 posted on 06/09/2004 9:01:29 AM PDT by newgeezer (America, bless God.)
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To: Betis70; qam1

Other popular terms are "Thirteeners" or "13th Generation", which come from a book by Neil Howe and William Strauss called "Generations", in which we are listed as the 13th generation of the USA since 1620.

From
http://users.metro2000.net/~stabbott/genxintro.htm

so I guess this start with the Pilgrims. Interesting.


162 posted on 06/09/2004 10:16:25 AM PDT by Betis70
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To: hispanarepublicana

I've gotten through part of it. It's sitting next to my bed waiting to be picked back up again (along with far too many other books).

I also have their "13th Generation" but ths structure of that is pretty annoying, with all the side-bars and comics and things. Such things tend to distract me.


163 posted on 06/09/2004 10:33:28 AM PDT by Betis70
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To: newgeezer
The Boomers, being that much further removed from the Depression, knowing little if anything about real hardship, raise(d) their kids accordingly.

I think you would very much enjoy a great but somewhat old read (1998) called "The Fourth Turning." One of the book's points: while the children of the Great Depression built character through economic hardship handed to them by the adults of the time, the children of "Generation Reagan"--many of whom have revived the "stay-at-home-mom" movement, suffered through a Great Depression of ideals vis-a-vis a lack of family values and no attention from the "into themselves" Boomer generation who were too busy continuing to make themselves "feel good and enjoy life." We were the first "latch-key" generation, and thus our character was built based on that. That's why we embraced Reagan.

164 posted on 06/09/2004 11:50:18 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Reagan was right.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
the children of "Generation Reagan"--many of whom have revived the "stay-at-home-mom" movement, suffered through a Great Depression of ideals vis-a-vis a lack of family values and no attention from the "into themselves" Boomer generation who were too busy continuing to make themselves "feel good and enjoy life." We were the first "latch-key" generation, and thus our character was built based on that. That's why we embraced Reagan.

Totally exactly right! Oh my gosh!

165 posted on 06/09/2004 12:00:58 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Yea, I guess my screename doesn't match my era, but it's a reference to where I live not the time I was born. :)

I graduated in 75 and was more of a Doobie Bros/Steely Dan/Eagles/Chicago fan. But I did like Sister Sledge and Donna Summer.

I couldn't think of a good screename. And I'm obviously not a "girl" anymore. But I live in Phoenix (Valley of the Sun), so that's what I came up with. Reading screenames on FR always fascinates me. Some pretty clever people here.


166 posted on 06/09/2004 12:08:10 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: hispanarepublicana
Sounds like an interesting read. Thanks.
167 posted on 06/09/2004 12:08:24 PM PDT by newgeezer (...until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

You know, the more I read, the more I relate to your generation than the Baby Boomers. I guess I am a Tweener. What a dumb name.

We're the Watergate Generation but that's no fun either.


168 posted on 06/09/2004 12:11:49 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: the OlLine Rebel

I noticed you're in MD. I lived there from 66-79. My formative years. My sisters are still there. Do you mind if I ask where you went to HS?


169 posted on 06/09/2004 12:15:45 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: valleygal

Hey, the boomers made darn sure we learned the crucial elements of Watergate, too. I remember singing a song, part of which went "18 minutes worth of tape weren't heeaaarrrd oooouuuut loooouuuudd!!"


170 posted on 06/09/2004 12:29:56 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl

bump


171 posted on 06/09/2004 12:47:18 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
OK, 1st question is: what is the mathematical definition of a generation?

With Baby Boomers/Xers (Baby Bust) and Ys (Echo Boom) it's sort of easy since it all has to do with the Birthrate. Though no one can agree whether the echo boom began in 1976 or 1982. I kind of lean toward the 1975 cut off year for Xers.

Obviously by this list (I have seen it before), there is no defined time range! That's ridiculous in itself.

I guess they are going by Shared experiences.

I don't like this method! Let's just go back to naming decades, not naming ethereal "generations" of varying scope!

That doesn't help either, For example the teenagers in 1970 were still Hippies where as teenagers in 1979 were Disco queens. So when you describe the 70's generation which is it?

Until people start having kids only in the first or last few years of a decade and none during the rest there is really just no way to really come up with a good definition or range of a generation.

172 posted on 06/09/2004 4:11:30 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

All I remember from world events as a child was Kennedy's assassination when I was 5 (my mom cried alot); when I was 10 Apollo 1 burned on my birthday and Viet Nam was on the nightly news every night. Then when I was 15, that whole darn summer vacation was nothing but Watergate hearings. I never could figure out what it was about and it was so bloody boring.

Eventually I knew what it was about. But it wasn't until Ollie North that I sat spellbound watching senate testimony.
His testimony, anyway.

The song, Alice's Restaurant makes a really funny reference to the missing minutes on tape... a song I'd never really listened to until my husband downloaded it from Napster (back when you could still do that).

My mother was a child in London during the Blitz so that's what I was used to hearing about. And my dad never talked about his early years at all that I can remember. I became a current events/politics addict on my own, I guess.


173 posted on 06/09/2004 6:02:46 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: qam1

My HS years were 72-75. I guess that makes me part Hippie and part Disco. Maybe I'm a "Dippy", LOL.


174 posted on 06/09/2004 6:05:42 PM PDT by valleygal
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To: qam1; rantblogger

If they put President Reagan on the 10 dollar bill then "X" and "Reagan" really will be synonymous!


175 posted on 06/09/2004 10:27:52 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Rush is talking about people in their 30's and Pres. Reagan.


176 posted on 06/10/2004 9:11:56 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Reagan was right.)
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To: valleygal

Hi, sorry about the delay. I went to Howard HS in (drum roll) Howard Co. in Ellicott City. My sis and bro went to Oakland Mills in Columbia. So you see I don't mind at all. ;-)


177 posted on 06/10/2004 7:55:54 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (I was there today! I passed Reagan's casket 6/10 3:40 PM!)
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To: 1_Inch_Group
hehe. whoops. wrong thread.
179 posted on 06/10/2004 11:46:04 PM PDT by 1_Inch_Group (Just when, exactly.... did we all fall down the rabbit hole???)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I turned 18 10-20-1984 just in time to vote for his 2nd term. It was awesome voting Reagan in that landslide.


180 posted on 06/11/2004 5:09:39 AM PDT by holdmuhbeer
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