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The great flood legends - ancient misreadings of the fossil record?
Antiquity ^ | June 2004 | Richard K. Jeck

Posted on 06/21/2004 7:49:48 AM PDT by aculeus

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Figure 1: Marine Fossils on Top of the Andes Mountains. More than 500 giant fossilised oysters were found 3000 metres (about 2 miles) above sea level in Peru in 2001 by Arturo Vildozola, palaeontologist with the Andean Society of Paleontology. (photo from AP/Wide World Photos)

1 posted on 06/21/2004 7:49:48 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: PatrickHenry

Fossils begot floods ping.


2 posted on 06/21/2004 7:50:47 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
PING. [This list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and some other science topics like cosmology. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]
3 posted on 06/21/2004 7:56:56 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Don't ask for evidence if you're going to ignore it when you see it.)
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To: aculeus

Its all water under the bridge.


4 posted on 06/21/2004 7:57:30 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU

So, how'd the coal get so deep ?


5 posted on 06/21/2004 8:00:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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More than 500 giant fossilised oysters were found 3000 metres (about 2 miles) above sea level in Peru

I suspect that it takes longer than 40 days and nights for those oysters to grow that big.

I also think that the Black Sea theory re. the Great Flood is a good theory.

Perhaps the fossil records are not too accurate, but Life on Earth is much older than thousands of years old. Millions of years old seems more accurate.

I don't need to refute the fossil records in order to believe in our Creator or to believe in the Creator of the Universe or to believe that the Bible is founded on the strongest foundation.

6 posted on 06/21/2004 8:02:41 AM PDT by rface (Ashland, Missouri -)
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To: PatrickHenry

counting the minutes until the first reactionary creationist doesn't read the whole article to realize it does not support their fantasy...


7 posted on 06/21/2004 8:05:17 AM PDT by whattajoke
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To: aculeus

Other thing of note is that there are plenty of ancient peoples that have no "flood myth" at all.


8 posted on 06/21/2004 8:07:28 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: aculeus
Dang!


9 posted on 06/21/2004 8:08:21 AM PDT by null and void ( Clinton: the first psychobabble presidency.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Is this the Russ McGlenn thread?


10 posted on 06/21/2004 8:13:36 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: aculeus

Man, wouldn't those make some awesome oyster stew!


11 posted on 06/21/2004 8:20:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: aculeus

I've also read recent articles that place the Biblical accounts of Noah as being based upon legends of the ancient Babylonians. Those accounts predate the Bible by several thousand years, and would have been available to the Jews who were taken to Babylon.


12 posted on 06/21/2004 8:29:39 AM PDT by Military family member (Proud Pacers fan...still)
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To: aculeus

"It has been generally assumed that since the Flood is such a detailed and epic part of the book of Genesis, the Flood must have really happened."

There are numerous other detailed epics from ancient peoples (Greeks, Egyptians, China...) does that mean all those things happened as well? If one detailed ancient epic 'must have really happened' - why not all of them? Bedtime stories are fun but they sure aren't science.

Z


13 posted on 06/21/2004 8:31:32 AM PDT by familyofman (out of the night when the full moon is bright comes a horseman)
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To: aculeus

I don't care what you say, I'm still not gonna let Ted Kennedy drive me to the party!


14 posted on 06/21/2004 8:33:12 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Military family member
It's well known: The Epic of Gilgamesh.
15 posted on 06/21/2004 8:35:09 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Don't ask for evidence if you're going to ignore it when you see it.)
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To: aculeus

Wyatt archaeological research.

16 posted on 06/21/2004 8:37:00 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Good question.

Well, new soil is constantly being laid down over the old do to volcanic eruptions, earth movement tectonic activities, etc.

While this doesn't amount to much over a year's time frame -over a period of thousands of years it adds up - even over a few hundreds of years. Look at ancient cities, Roman ruins - they are all below curren ground levels.

Coal deposits were laid down millions of years ago.


17 posted on 06/21/2004 8:37:20 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Military family member

I think the scholarly consensus is that the Noah's ark story was written before the exile.


18 posted on 06/21/2004 8:37:56 AM PDT by synwojciecha
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Man, wouldn't those make some awesome oyster stew!

Or Oysters Rocky-feller.

19 posted on 06/21/2004 8:38:09 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: synwojciecha
I think the scholarly consensus is that the Noah's ark story was written before the exile.

I don't know about that, but it wouldn't matter. Abraham came from ancient Sumeria, so presumably he -- and thus the ancient Hebrews -- already knew the Sumerian legends.

20 posted on 06/21/2004 8:41:20 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Don't ask for evidence if you're going to ignore it when you see it.)
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