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To: robertpaulsen

The reason the Founders wanted a well armed militia was not only to serve as a force against an invading army but also as a check against the potential tyranny of its own government. The Founders had just thrown off the shackles of what they thought was an oppressive government with a standing army (Britain). A well armed citizenry was to serve as the nation's fighting force, but also as a balance to its own government.

With todays standing armies and the power of the federal government, a well armed citizenry is needed now more than ever.


70 posted on 07/11/2004 1:48:21 PM PDT by bat1816
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To: bat1816; robertpaulsen

robertpaulsen wrote:

--- you still feel that we should organize, arm, and form a citizens militia? To fight ... who?

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Enemies, -- domestic?

Our enemy within becomes ever more bold paulsen, as we see by exposing sites like this one, and you all, -- who support them.

24 tpaine

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So, we need to organize, and arm, a citizens state militia to combat these domestic enemies? Just so I know where to aim my gun, could you point out one of them?
I don't know what's more appropriate for you -- my Reynold's Wrap picture or my Black Helicopter Crowd picture.
26 -paulsen-

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bat1816 wrote:

With todays standing armies and the power of the federal government, a well armed citizenry is needed now more than ever.

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As you see, paulsen doesn't care to respond to reason.
His whole purpose here at FR is to run down our Constitutional rule of law while puffing himself up.


76 posted on 07/11/2004 2:23:16 PM PDT by tpaine (A stupid person causes losses to another while himself deriving no gain, or even incurring loss)
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To: bat1816
The phrase we were discussing in post #16 is, "... the need to arm the populace as a militia is no longer of much concern ...".

Are you saying that the states need to form, and arm, organized state civilian militias? And once organized, armed, and trained, what are their orders?

Or, should we focus on ensuring that citizens have the right to keep and bear arms?

77 posted on 07/11/2004 2:24:50 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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