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The silence of the phones?
United Press International, a sister news organization of The Washington Times ^ | July 9, 2004, 8:49 p.m. | Gene J. Koprowski

Posted on 07/09/2004 9:19:26 AM PDT by solicitor77

CHICAGO, July 9 (UPI) -- The first time famed composer Arnold Schoenberg heard Gustav Mahler's "Symphony No. 2" back in the late 19th century, he said he felt "overwhelmed, completely overwhelmed."

Last month, when Californian Lisa Mirza Grotts and her husband heard that same, masterful work at the San Francisco Symphony, they were overcome, too -- but for a completely different reason.

"Music Director Michael Tilson Thomas, at the start of the performance, said that he was going to tape it," Grotts told United Press International.

An exceptionally crass person seated nearby did not seem to take the message to heart and let his cellular phone ring repeatedly during the taping.

"It made me cringe," said Grotts, a consultant and former aide to San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown.

As mobile phones become ever more pervasive in the lives of Americans, they are sparking a cultural and social debate: Just what is appropriate conduct, and when should people silence their phones? What are the proper manners one must adopt when on a mobile phone?

Due to generational differences -- mobile phones are most popular with young people -- no one apparently knows for sure. So giving a noisome individual a disapproving look for behavior that one deems unacceptable may not work, just yet.

"There are no etiquette rules for mobile phone use," said Naomi Baron, professor of linguistics at the American University in Washington, D.C.

Contact: sciencemail@upi.com

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KEYWORDS: culture; manners; mobilephone; symphony
Amazing story about how people have no manners on cell phones. Simply amazing.
1 posted on 07/09/2004 9:19:26 AM PDT by solicitor77
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To: solicitor77
Just what is appropriate conduct, and when should people silence their phones? What are the proper manners one must adopt when on a mobile phone?

There's no debate necessary. When in a theater or concert hall (or at events like weddings and funerals), turn the ringer off. Period. If you are a "must-carry" kind of person (on-call surgeons, for example), then get a phone with vibrate feature -- most phones have this now, some by using an optional battery. On a similar note, heaven help you if you phone goes off on the golf course while I'm in the middle of my backswing... you'll be wearing my club.

As for etiquette, when using your phone in public, remember that you're in public. If the conversation you're having would otherwise be inappropriate for the setting (either in content or volume), then it's inappropriate to have the same converstaion on your cell phone.

Finally, always respect any rules/requests about cell phone use made by the proprietor of the establishment you are in. In some cases (hospitals, for example) it is a safety issue; in others, it is an expected courtesy toward your fellows.

2 posted on 07/09/2004 9:27:40 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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To: solicitor77

I cannot conjour a more egregious cell phone faux pas than letting it ring during a symphony performance, when sound is what matters most.


3 posted on 07/09/2004 9:29:09 AM PDT by NietzschesJoker (Laughing and staying silent--is that now your whole philosophy?)
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To: solicitor77

And when Mahler's long symphony finally culminated in an evocation of the glorious resurrection a cell phone rang....to the tune of Smoke on the Water.


4 posted on 07/09/2004 9:29:34 AM PDT by macamadamia
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To: solicitor77
"There are no etiquette rules for mobile phone use," said Naomi Baron, professor of linguistics at the American University in Washington, D.C Is she kidding or just living in a different universe?

Though it appears that (mostly younger) people choose to ignore basic rules of courtesy while using cell phones, even these people are not too stupid to know that a ringing cell phone during a public musical performance is not a good thing. We need to understand that it is really we who are at fault because we fail to grasp that anyone who lets their cell phone ring during a concert must be a really, really important person who cannot be bothered with any concern for the rest of the audience or the performers.

5 posted on 07/09/2004 9:46:04 AM PDT by Hoof Hearted
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On a similar note, heaven help you if you phone goes off on the golf course while I'm in the middle of my backswing... you'll be wearing my club.

Sorry Tiger! You should have your caddy do it for you.

Overall I agree with your post except that comment.

6 posted on 07/09/2004 9:56:49 AM PDT by wi jd
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Sorry Tiger! You should have your caddy do it for you.

:)

Don't find too many caddies on municipal courses...

7 posted on 07/09/2004 10:06:12 AM PDT by kevkrom (My handle is "kevkrom", and I approved this post.)
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Don't find too many caddies on municipal courses...

Very true. Caddies on a muni might increase the cost a tad.

8 posted on 07/09/2004 11:28:27 AM PDT by wi jd
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