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Trump slams Bush on Iraq
New York Daily News ^ | July 9, 2004 | Corky Siemaszko

Posted on 07/09/2004 4:51:14 PM PDT by RobUnger

Trump slams Bush on Iraq

President Bush, you should be fired. The Donald has turned thumbs down on the President's war in Iraq, calling it a "mess."

"What was the purpose of the whole thing?" Donald Trump asks in an Esquire interview. "Hundreds of young people killed. And what about the people coming back with no arms and no legs?"

"The Apprentice" star said it's folly to think Iraq can be turned into a "wonderful democracy."

The real estate baron said if he were President, Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden "would have been caught long ago."

"Tell me, how is it possible that we can't find a guy who's 6-foot-6 and supposedly needs a dialysis machine?" Trump said. "Can you explain that one to me? We have all our energies focused on one place - where they shouldn't be focused."

Trump, a Republican, has flirted with the idea of running for President.

Corky Siemaszko

Originally published on July 9, 2004


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; osama; thedonald; trump
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If Mr. Trump knows where Osama is hiding then why doesn`t HE drop his redundant attempt at reality tv, get on his plane and go and get him for us?

A 6-foot-6 man an dialysis (who also is rich) has more than a few options of where to hide; it's a big damn planet.

If he (a Republican) is going to either: (A.) Get on the Moore Express, -or- (B.) Set up his own campaign at Bushs expense, then maybe he should put that big brain of his around the idea that he`s not in touch with the true problem;

Islamic militants hate the Left even more than they hate the Right.

Consider this: Conservatives believe that there is global benefit to living within a moral code. Liberals believe that no-one should be responsible for there own actions, that all things should be tolerated (even if said things are immoral), and that it is better to give fish than to teach fishing classes (Yes, of course you feed your students until they get the hang of it).

Osama and Company are demanding our demise because of our lack of morality... We`re infidels, remember.

The left is, and not so slowly, dragging us down that slippery slope that leads to a society where bi-sexuality is common place in Middle School, where the youth of our Nation aspire to no more than hangin' with their G`s and poppin` caps, and our Leaders use every dirty trick to get power instead of banding together to protect us all.

Oh, wait a minute, that`s where we are now, aren`t we?

Robert B. Unger New Port Richey, Florida

1 posted on 07/09/2004 4:51:14 PM PDT by RobUnger
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To: RobUnger

Like anyone should listen to a guy with Pomeranian hair.


2 posted on 07/09/2004 4:53:37 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Didn't your father tell you that unnecessary excerpting will make you go blind?)
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To: RobUnger
"The Apprentice" star said it's folly to think Iraq can be turned into a "wonderful democracy."

Thats because Donald Trump is a bigoted WASP with head up arse.

By the way, everybody on the internet is not as convivial as I am. Posting your real name and home location together is not a good idea.

3 posted on 07/09/2004 4:54:54 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Paul Atreides

What is it with his hair. Talk about a big "YUK". Here is a man with multi-millions and yet has a hair do that a poor blind man would not be caught dead with....


4 posted on 07/09/2004 4:56:25 PM PDT by Two-Bits (God Bless the USA and all who love her)
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To: RobUnger

Like so many other selfish, immoral moguls who call themselves Republicans, Donald lives for his thrills of today. He doesn't care about what happens to America tomorrow. He's also a participant in the destruction of family.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2095117/

Breast for Success
What's really behind the sex-sells antics on The Apprentice.
By Dahlia Lithwick
Posted Friday, Feb. 6, 2004, at 2:39 PM PT

In The Donald's world, women rule

Donald Trump's reality show, The Apprentice, has lots to tell us about lots of things. Business schools are using it as a teaching tool, and feminist commentators are at war over whether women's sexuality represents power or slavery. The show, styled as "the ultimate job interview," pits eight beautiful young women against eight moderately attractive young men, all competing for a job in the Trump organization at a starting salary of $250,000. (Each contestant has a solid business background.) The big shocker, after five episodes, is meant to be that the women's team shamelessly use their hooters to score business wins. They have hit the streets of Manhattan and peddled warm lemonade, sweetened with kisses and their phone numbers. They have bumped and grinded to bargain for gold. They have donned toddler-sized T-shirts to induce Planet Hollywood patrons to do shots with them. The men's team has lost for four weeks running, with one man "fired" at the end of each show. The men were in fact pummeled so badly that Trump was forced into a corporate "reshuffle" this week?mixing the genders to give the four remaining men a fighting chance.

No one disputes that the women's conduct is effective: The show mostly just proves that prostitution really is the world's oldest and most lucrative profession. But debate rages over whether it's appropriate in today's business world. A Nexis search including the terms "Trump, Apprentice, and sex" reveals that 206 articles on the subject have been written. The breakdown generally goes like this: Male reviewers find the whorish conduct sad but entertaining, older women find it shameful and degrading, and younger women, particularly the cute ones, find it liberating and thrilling. One letter to the New York Times crows: "Sex is power!" Which echoes the sentiments of the show's female contestants who say things like: "If being attractive is wrong, then what we do is wrong."

All this discussion, interesting as it may be, misses the real point of The Apprentice. The gender conflict is a side issue, a distraction. The truly interesting anxiety at work in this show is generational: These women and men are revealing the massive gap between the way young men and women, and older men and older women, think about sex.

Who is having a great time on the set of The Apprentice? The Donald, for one. Trump is having the time of his life because these hot young foxes are falling all over themselves to please him?and doing so in the wee-est of garments. Now, that is good business for him and for his powerful associates?a generation of moguls who can mouth platitudes about equality but still date only preteen models. In one episode Donny Deutsch?the head of an advertising agency?lauds the women's team's efforts to launch an ad campaign?the ads they come up with are so phallic they get named "the testicle ad." As Deutsch hands them the win he cackles delightedly that their presentation (in stewardess costumes) had "set the women's movement back 70 years." This week sees Trump stepping into an elevator with one co-ed team and leering at one of the men: "Nice to have these girls with ya, huh?" Moments later, as the group crowds into George Steinbrenner's office, Steinbrenner greets Trump with a hug and crows lechily, "I knew there would be pretty girls!"

Who else is having a blast on The Apprentice? The girls! They are kicking the men's butts by celebrating their own. They've stolen Ally McBeal's resume but lost the self-doubt. Their de rigueur business uniform: tight low-rise jeans, belly-button shirts, and stiletto boots. Their giggly delight is about their power, and one hesitates to begrudge them. Sure, they have a moment's misgiving when they meet Trump's Slovenian supermodel girlfriend.* You can see it in their eyes: Why fight to work for Trump, when you can get him to work for you? But overall, the sex for power bargain is working for them. They are on their way up. There is a perfect synergy between what the young women want and what the old men have, and all the show's sparks comes from that truth.

Who isn't having fun on The Apprentice? Well, Trump's hench-person, Carolyn Kepcher, for one. Wan and exhausted, she looks ready to expire at any time. Kepcher, who's worked for Trump for almost 10 years, sits by his side and advises him about whom to fire. Trump mostly ignores her. It can't help that she dresses like Nancy Reagan?this week's outfit, all buttons and power-scarf, practically screams "breast-free zone." The only moment in five weeks in which she has exhumed a spirit was when Trump lambasted the women last week: "You're coming a little close to crossing the line, relying on your sexuality to win," he intoned. "That won't get you the job here!" Kepcher exclaimed, showing real enthusiasm for the first time. Since then she's returned to her sullen bewilderment: She is obviously as confounded by what happened to the women's movement as the rest of us.

But the least fun to be had on the show is among the young men, all of whom seem to be adhering to some 1950s code of business success: They wear suits. They call Trump "Sir." (Some of the women have taken to calling him "Donald.") They are respectful, if terrified, around the women. They have clearly grown up in an era of political correctness; if the ladies' hooker-gear offends them, they never mention it. Does it bother them that they could not have done to their female waitresses what the women did to themselves last week?dressed up in tiny "shooters girls" (a play on Hooters girls) T-shirts and insisted that Planet Hollywood patrons do shots with them? If the guys had asked women to do it they'd have been sued for harassment. Since when is sex a game only women can play? Does it madden the men? Who knows? They never say. They just trudge stolidly along, with their business plans and their management principles, getting their butts kicked and trying to take it manfully. These guys have nothing--not power, not sex. The currency that once counted for them--their MBAs and the ability to sink a 3-pointer--jingles like loose pennies in their pockets.

Whether these women should be tarting it up to get ahead is one question. I leave it to the traditional feminists and their lipstick counterparts to work that out. The more interesting question is whether their daughters will have to (or want to) "breast for success" when their turn comes. Oddly, that will turn somewhat on how these poor, broken young men view women and sexuality after a generation of being so confounded by it. One can only hope that by the time they are Donald's age, they will have figured out how to act it.


5 posted on 07/09/2004 4:57:21 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: RobUnger
Well, at least I know why Trump's hair looks like that-- it's because his head's been stored up his rectum for so long.
6 posted on 07/09/2004 4:57:22 PM PDT by atomicpossum (I give up! Entropy, you win!)
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To: RobUnger
""The Apprentice" star"

is a cheap loud mouth idiot that benefits from the efforts of those ridding the world of terrorists, but has zilch to offer in that regard.

7 posted on 07/09/2004 4:59:04 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: RobUnger
...it's folly to think Iraq can be turned into a "wonderful democracy.

Yes it is. Now tell us who ever said it can be turned into a "wonderful democracy?"

8 posted on 07/09/2004 4:59:42 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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To: Two-Bits
It reminds me of the time I was at work, and looked out of the window to see a man getting out of a shiny new Ford Mustang, wearing Bermuda shorts, wing-tip dress shoes, and over-the-calf black dress socks.
9 posted on 07/09/2004 5:00:22 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Didn't your father tell you that unnecessary excerpting will make you go blind?)
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To: RobUnger

Is this guy making any money? Last time I checked he was losing his a$$. What ever happened to that shuttle debacle he was involved in? I say he needs to be fired. A good job for him might be as the a$$wiper of that hook-handed cleric.


10 posted on 07/09/2004 5:02:00 PM PDT by DaBroasta (We owe it to the Bush-haters to do all we can to give 'em 4-more years)
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To: RobUnger
"What was the purpose of the whole thing?" Donald Trump asks in an Esquire interview.

The purpose of the whole thing was to try to prevent some yutz from blowing up one of your buildings or casinos with a radiological bomb, which would have had the effect of rendering your entire multibillion dollar real estate empire worthless.

You're welcome.

11 posted on 07/09/2004 5:03:13 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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The real estate baron said if he were President, Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden "would have been caught long ago."

Wow! All this time I didn't know that The Donald is also The F'n.

12 posted on 07/09/2004 5:03:15 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Didn't your father tell you that unnecessary excerpting will make you go blind?)
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To: RobUnger
TRUMP, --- YOU're FIRED!
13 posted on 07/09/2004 5:03:55 PM PDT by NordP (The terrorists aren’t bullies on a playground; they’re hard core, “24” TV, head-sawing TERRORISTS!)
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To: RobUnger
Finding Osama without intelligence as to his exact location would entail moving roughshod into the Pakistan/Afghan border area (widely accepted to be his hideout area)and doing hovel-to-hovel and cave-to-cave searches, with its attendant ramifications.He will be captured and when he is we will have cleared but one more obstacle in the ongoing and extended War on Terror.
14 posted on 07/09/2004 5:10:23 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Leftists don't acknowledge that Reagan won the cold war because they rooted for the other side.)
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By the way, everybody on the internet is not as convivial as I am. Posting your real name and home location together is not a good idea.

How do you know that isn't the name of his liberal next door neighbor, that he can't stand?

Seriesly? LOL!

15 posted on 07/09/2004 5:10:50 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: Paul Atreides

Same kind of inflated idiot.


16 posted on 07/09/2004 5:12:40 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: Mister Baredog
Well, you could always email him and find out. He provided that for the lefty spammers as well.

ANy day now he'll be on the Kerry for POTUS, NARAL and GLSEN lists. Perhaps you can save him from himself.

17 posted on 07/09/2004 5:16:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: RobUnger
"What was the purpose of the whole thing?" Donald Trump asks...

"The Apprentice" star said it's folly to think Iraq can be turned into a "wonderful democracy."

Hey, Donald, how about you stick to the business you know and let those that have a clue run the country?

BTW: STFU - and you are fired!

This kills me - every swinging dick and boob that has money, now thinks they know what is best for this country.

As they say; Ignorance is such bliss.

LVM

18 posted on 07/09/2004 5:26:10 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (I will cast my vote for King Lurch........I'll change my mind in early November....)
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To: RobUnger

Thanks for posting this.

As if I needed another reason to think Trump is an idiot....

The guys only talent is blowing his own horn.

If he was half of anything that he thought he was, he'd really be something.


19 posted on 07/09/2004 5:26:47 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: RobUnger

Donald Trump can't even pick a wife who's not a gold-diggin whore, so why would I value this dip$hits opinion?


20 posted on 07/09/2004 5:31:18 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family was a WMD)
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