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A Dime's Worth Of Difference? (Liberal Republicans Say "NON!" To Tax Cuts)
OpinionJournal.com ^ | 7/11/04 | Pete Du Pont

Posted on 07/11/2004 9:26:00 PM PDT by goldstategop

An important and serious argument is going on in Washington about whether taxes on Americans' incomes should stay where they are or dramatically rise, and whether government spending should continue its accelerating growth. We know what Democrats think. They despise tax cuts and believe government spending should be higher. Washington Republicans, on the other hand, are unsure of themselves. They used to be for lower taxes and smaller government; now they seem to want bigger spending even if it means higher taxes, abandoning Reagan conservatism for '60s liberalism. In other words, this is a battle for the heart of the Republican Party; the outcome matters, and it seems to be in doubt. With the help of three liberal Republicans (Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine and Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island), and one who should know better (John McCain of Arizona), the Senate, with 51 votes, adopted a rule that if passed in the House will end all the Bush tax cuts and ensure that no new ones are enacted.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: axixofevil; dupont; gop; liberalism; rinos; taxcuts; taxreform
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To: Reagan Man

The 1986 Tax Reform bill RAISED taxes...or don't you remember that? Sure Reagan agreed to raise taxes because ccongress promised to cut spending but Reagan was ROLLED...they spent more than they cut and the taxes were still higher than after the first cuts...


221 posted on 07/12/2004 12:44:00 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: nopardons; Tamsey; onyx
Hey, who needs a ping list? You've got the
"Posse-matic 5000 Series" beeper from Motorola:

...you know, for calling the posse...

;O)

222 posted on 07/12/2004 12:44:54 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: nickcarraway

Someone in DC had better figure real soon how to eliminate income taxes, or face the very real posibility of revolution.


223 posted on 07/12/2004 12:45:29 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: onyx

Oh, you are SO right :-)

All the flak we've been seeing about Arnold speaking at the convention will be well worth it... for the tushes it will tweak LOL


224 posted on 07/12/2004 12:45:54 AM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: nopardons

Look. I will turn off my light saber if you turn off yours.


225 posted on 07/12/2004 12:46:04 AM PDT by Tax Government
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To: Petronski
So that's what I felt vibrating in my pocket.
226 posted on 07/12/2004 12:46:18 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (They call it "PMS" because "Mad Cow Disease" was already taken.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think he meant decrease. I don't know if Du Pont goofed or if the editors did.


227 posted on 07/12/2004 12:46:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Yeah, that's what it was. Of course.
228 posted on 07/12/2004 12:46:53 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: onyx

Well Howdy!
Yes, I'm definately leaning toward going. Will know for sure in a couple days.
Thanks for asking.


229 posted on 07/12/2004 12:47:33 AM PDT by b9 ("Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm" Emerson)
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To: Petronski

Posse heck!
If we're called all at once,
we are the calvary!

Nite yall.


230 posted on 07/12/2004 12:47:39 AM PDT by onyx (Kerry/Edwards: It's the hair, stupid.)
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To: doodlelady

:)


231 posted on 07/12/2004 12:48:11 AM PDT by onyx (Kerry/Edwards: It's the hair, stupid.)
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To: onyx

Er, cavalry (horses), not calvary (crosses), right?


;O)


232 posted on 07/12/2004 12:48:22 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: jnarcus; KDD
A great column on the Patriot Act :-)

Patriot Act's bum rap - by Edwin Meese II

233 posted on 07/12/2004 12:48:41 AM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: beckett
And where did you get your master's degree and what was it in? Yeah that's what I thought...
234 posted on 07/12/2004 12:48:48 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: jnarcus
>>>The 1986 Tax Reform bill RAISED taxes...or don't you remember that?

Reagan lowered income taxes in both 1981 and 1986. That was my point.

Let's not forget, PresReagan's first priority in 1981 was to get the economy moving again and start to rebuild America's military. America was in the midst of the worse economic times since the Great Depression and the Cold War was still raging strong. Reagan worked together with Tip O'Neill and Bob Dole to give American workers some real tax reform. The first round of tax cuts that Reagan signed into law, were of critical importance to reducing interest rates, inflation and unemployment. Reagan's early tax cuts totaled a 25% marginal tax rate reduction, (Reagan wanted 30%) across the board. Those tax cuts stimulated spending, investment and savings, and fueled an economic recovery that lasted until 2000! The highest tax rates went from 70% to 50%. Reagan's 1986 Tax Reform Act would bring that 50% top rate, down to 28%.

235 posted on 07/12/2004 12:48:57 AM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Reagan Man

Hey your nasty comments are totally uncalled for.


236 posted on 07/12/2004 12:49:34 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: Tax Government
Oh gee...........a damned goldbug,who has absolutely no comprehension of economics.

Look,I know,I know,next comes all that codswallop about "fiat" money,but the fact of the matter is,anything and just about everything has been used for and as a backing of money.Heck,at one time and it wasn't all that long ago,China and some countries in Europe used salt, SALT,not gold, because salt,common,everyday salt,was worth far more than gold.

Gold is NOT the be all and end all.Our money was in more flux,when we were on a gold standard than it is today.And actual gold coins,have ALWAYS been easier to play around with/devalue than paper money is to replicate.

237 posted on 07/12/2004 12:50:07 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Ain't that the truth...wiser words have never been spoken ( or written)


238 posted on 07/12/2004 12:51:15 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: Petronski

Posse-matic! ROFL

And looks like it would fit right into my holster ;-)



239 posted on 07/12/2004 12:51:22 AM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: Capitalism2003
With Bush, the democrats propose a 20% increase...he asks for 10%, and considers it a "victory" when we "only" get a 12.5% annual increase in government. He is no conservative.

Okay, this is what I fail to understand.

Imagine you are in an airplane that is about to crash. You have enough time before it does to grab one item and jump out. Which would you take?

A ratty old parachute (Bush)
A fine French bedsheet that sorta looks like a parachute (Kerry)
A sales brochure for the perfect parachute (third party)

Because, brother, those are your options.

I'm not thrilled with Bush's mile wide spendaholic streak. There are social issues I wish he was stronger on. I wish our rules of engagement in fighting terrorism weren't so PC. In fact, there are a number of things that I don't agree with him on.

But to sit around and focus on what I don't like misses the big picture just the same as sitting around pointing out flaws in the ratty parachute. We shouldn't let the perfect become the enemy of the good. There are real consequences to face if we fail.

240 posted on 07/12/2004 12:51:34 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (What? Bread AND circuses, ... for free?!?)
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