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Hawking cracks black hole paradox
NewScientist ^
| 14 July 2004
| Jenny Hogan
Posted on 07/14/2004 12:22:21 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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Anything involving Hawking is newsworthy.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:23:49 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(#26,303, registered since the 20th Century, never suspended, over 185 threads posted.)
To: PatrickHenry
Note the British use of the plural "maths" instead of the Colonial singular "math." It will be an interesting paper. Extreme things always are.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:27:37 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: PatrickHenry
Better than my theory which just had someone coming by every night and emptying all of the black holes.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:28:06 PM PDT
by
NYFriend
To: Doctor Stochastic; Mycroft Holmes
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:28:23 PM PDT
by
fooman
(Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
To: PatrickHenry
This might be applied immediately to the paradox of the mature-looking galaxies found too soon after the Big Bang. That is, there was no Big Bang, but a fuzzy fwoop.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:30:18 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
To: NYFriend
Better than my theory which just had someone coming by every night and emptying all of the black holes.
Leave Scruffy alone. He'll get around to it.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:32:05 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
To: Doctor Stochastic
The one reason that I would give deference to Stephen's new theory is this:
The man states his earlier theory WAS WRONG and he has a new theory that fits the facts better.
VERY FEW ever ADMIT THEY ARE WRONG. It is the sign of the most intelligent to admit mistakes. It is like a scale. Stephen Hawking at one end, DEMOCRATIC VOTERS on the other.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:32:18 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The LINE has been drawn. While the narrow minded see a line, the rest see a circle.)
To: Doctor Stochastic
The one reason that I would give deference to Stephen's new theory is this:
The man states his earlier theory WAS WRONG and he has a new theory that fits the facts better.
VERY FEW ever ADMIT THEY ARE WRONG. It is the sign of the most intelligent to admit mistakes. It is like a scale. Stephen Hawking at one end, DEMOCRATIC VOTERS on the other.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:32:24 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The LINE has been drawn. While the narrow minded see a line, the rest see a circle.)
To: Doctor Stochastic
Hawking's black holes, unlike classic black holes, do not have a well-defined event horizon that hides everything within them from the outside world. I don't have an event horizon either, yet I manage to lose information all the time. I guess I'm more powerful than a black hole.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:32:29 PM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(#26,303, registered since the 20th Century, never suspended, over 185 threads posted.)
To: PatrickHenry
Has the thread been moved to the backroom yet?
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:32:56 PM PDT
by
js1138
(In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
To: Doctor Stochastic
Yeah, and they say 'cloud', when talking about 'clouds'???
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:33:46 PM PDT
by
stuartcr
To: All
Oops, sorry about the double-hit.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:33:46 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The LINE has been drawn. While the narrow minded see a line, the rest see a circle.)
To: RightWhale
This might be applied immediately to the paradox of the mature-looking galaxies found too soon after the Big Bang. That is, there was no Big Bang, but a fuzzy fwoop.And G-d said, "Well, maybe there should be light. On the other hand, maybe not. Tell you what, let me get a cup of coffee. We can have a little light for now. Say, what do you guys think? Do you want to vote on it? Let me go get that coffee and we can talk it over for a while....."
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:34:08 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:34:30 PM PDT
by
Paul Ross
(Communism is a mental illness. Historical amnesia is its prerequisite.)
To: PatrickHenry
I don't have an event horizon either
You probably don't need one. Even the very hot Sam Neill couldn't save that movie.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:37:31 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(I'm thinkin' of a master plan . . .)
To: PatrickHenry
It seems that black holes may after all allow information within them to escape. Only the democrat ones.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:40:47 PM PDT
by
jtminton
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To: RightWhale
That is, there was no Big Bang, but a fuzzy fwoop. Did somebody say fuzzy fwoop?
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:40:53 PM PDT
by
COBOL2Java
(If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, thank a soldier.)
To: PatrickHenry
Though Hawking has not yet revealed the detailed maths behind his finding, sketchy details have emerged from a seminar Hawking gave at Cambridge. Hope he's figured out a way to "read" the information leaking out of black holes. It'd be beyond fascinating to know what's going on inside.
To: PatrickHenry
They argued that "information swallowed by a black hole is forever hidden, and can never be revealed". I think I got that from a fortune cookie once.
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posted on
07/14/2004 12:43:48 PM PDT
by
weegee
(Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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