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To: asmith92008
"Statistics have shown that children in 'weak' marriages, that is parents who feel personally unfulfilled, still ending up having less social pathologies than those who grow up without a mother and father."

The shortcoming of statistics is that, when all is said and done, they are just numbers. What about divorces that result in one or both of the people getting happily re-married, rather than remaining in a miserable marriage? I know of several (my mother) such cases. Which kids have fewer social pathologies - those who grow up in a household where parents have "strong" marriages or those who grow up in a household where the parents have "weak" marriages?

"we can trust the government to uphold that standard because no people has ever voted for homosexual marriage. Even now, it is being imposed by courts."

Are the courts not part of the government?

"In a democratic republic, the people can, and must be, trusted to guard their social institutions."

Why the insistence that they use government in this endeavor?

118 posted on 07/16/2004 6:10:03 PM PDT by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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To: Voice in your head

Government must be involved in marriage.

At the start of this nation, marriage was only recorded in a non-uniform means. church records were not reliable and inconsistent. Additionally people went to the courts to disolve a marriage with only a church record to prove a marriage.

Thus the governement has to have the central role of record keeper. A license is just a recording and a means on making sure those that marry are legally able.

Laws such as inheritance, incompetency, medical surrogacy are all dependent on a consitent and uniform rule of marriage.

Additionally as a society we reward the insitution not the individual. Marriage is about promoting the insititution which proliferates the society for future generations. Homosexuality only proliferates recreational sex.


119 posted on 07/16/2004 6:24:19 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Voice in your head
Children that grow up with two parents have less social pathologies. That has been a fact known since the early 70's. If you have a problem with statistics, then your anecdotal tale is worse than worthless in policy discussions.

And while courts are part of the government, they are not the entire government. So if the other branches, executive and legislative, would get off their duffs and do their jobs to rein in there out of control colleagues, we would not have a problem.

As to why the government, why does the government control borders (theoretically) or police the streets? Because government's job is to protect our people and out cultural institutions.
120 posted on 07/16/2004 6:54:25 PM PDT by asmith92008 (If we buy into the nonsense that we always have to vote for RINOs, we'll just end up taking the horn)
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