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Kerry Hunts Deer With 12-gauge Shotguns?
London Telegraph Via Newsmax ^ | 7/27/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/28/2004 9:49:50 AM PDT by Carling

Apparently hoping to outdo Hillary Clinton's improbable attempt to reinvent herself as a duck hunter, John Kerry has tried to avoid alienating supporters of gun rights by depicting himself as a deer hunter. Mark Steyn will have none of it.

Steyn wrote in the London Telegraph yesterday: "He was in Wisconsin the other day, pretending to be a regular guy, and was asked what kind of hunting he preferred. 'I'd have to say deer,' said the senator. 'I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach ... That's hunting.'

"This caused huge hilarity among my New Hampshire neighbours. None of us has ever heard of anybody deer hunting by crawling around on his stomach, even in Massachusetts. The trick is to blend in with the woods and, given that John Kerry already looks like a forlorn tree in late fall, it's hard to see why he'd give up his natural advantage in order to hunt horizontally.

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Even more remarkable is that Kerry hunts deer with a shotgun.
1 posted on 07/28/2004 9:49:54 AM PDT by Carling
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To: Carling

You could use a sabot slug I believe, but I defer to FReepers who are hunters.


2 posted on 07/28/2004 9:52:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin ("A republic, if we can revive it")
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To: Carling

There are areas of the east coast you have to use shotgun with deer slugs. It is illegal to be in the field with any rifle larger than .30 cal


3 posted on 07/28/2004 9:52:27 AM PDT by djf
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To: Carling

Shotguns are the only modern firearms allowed for deer hunting in much of Maryland.


4 posted on 07/28/2004 9:52:51 AM PDT by RebelBanker (Now I understand! "Allah" is Arabic for "Satan.")
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To: Carling
Even more remarkable is that Kerry hunts deer with a shotgun.

Not at all. In Pennsylvania, you can't deer hunt with a rifle south of I-80 - you have to use a shotgun with slugs or buckshot.

What was absurd is that Kerry said that he crawled on his belly to hunt deer.

5 posted on 07/28/2004 9:52:51 AM PDT by dirtboy (Forget Berger's socks - has ANYONE searched his skin folds for classified documents?)
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To: Carling
It is not remarkable. In many states, it is all that is allowed.

Most use slugs. But some use buckshot. Hmmm... Where do you think it got that name?

6 posted on 07/28/2004 9:52:58 AM PDT by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: Carling

In some states this as the preferred method....when hunting in a smaller acreage plot of land. Hence, the term "deer slug".


7 posted on 07/28/2004 9:53:09 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Carling

goodness gracious. is this really happening? the democratic party thing. it's almost to the point you feel something akin to pity. almost.


8 posted on 07/28/2004 9:54:10 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Carling

Not that remarkable. In the southern parts of wisconsin, gun deer season is shotgun only. Nothern parts have the choice of rifle or shotgun.

The crawling around on his stomach is the ridiculous part. Either you walk around yourself or as part of a drive, or you're up in a stand waiting all day.


9 posted on 07/28/2004 9:54:30 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: BenLurkin
In some areas deer hunting is restricted to shotguns with slugs. Though I have never hunted deer crawling on my belly unless Kerry is talking about those miniature pixy deer. LOL
10 posted on 07/28/2004 9:55:14 AM PDT by ParityErr
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To: BenLurkin
Beginning to think I should throw out my 12 Gauge deer slugs from my ammo locker.

Since no one on this forum thinks I should be hunting deer with them.

Guess it can't be done.

Guess I will have to back to using only handguns again.

11 posted on 07/28/2004 9:55:17 AM PDT by dts32041 (Gen Karpinski A bullet, A Gun, a Room, her only honorable solution (MP Officer Not))
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To: dirtboy

I defer to you East Coasters on this. Out here in the West, hunting deer with a shotgun accomplishes one thing. It leaves you with a big ole' mess.

I'll take my rifle anyday, get a clean kill, and not have to see Bambi suffer.


12 posted on 07/28/2004 9:55:25 AM PDT by Carling
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To: djf

Why? what is the difference?

just want to know.


13 posted on 07/28/2004 9:55:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Carling
Even more remarkable is that Kerry hunts deer with a shotgun.

I hunt deer with a shotgun - rifles are not permitted for deer hunting where I live, I don't like my CVA muzzleloader & I haven't scraped together enough for a Thompson Contender.

The point isn't that he claimed to hunt with a shotgun, but rather (1) that he claimed to use a double-barrel shotgun (which in over&under configuration is almost exclusively for birds and in side-by configuration is suitable only for deer hunting with buckshot since they don't handle slugs accurately); and (2) that he claimed to hunt deer crawling on his belly, which, while appropriate for topping crests, isn't a technique designed to get you close enough to a deer to dispatch it with buckshot.

14 posted on 07/28/2004 9:56:06 AM PDT by FateAmenableToChange
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To: Carling
crawl around on my stomach ... That's hunting.

I think here, Kerry is flashing back to how he killed the innocent Vietnamese villagers during his war criminal days.
15 posted on 07/28/2004 9:56:09 AM PDT by marktuoni (VERRY/ BACKWARDS)
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To: Carling

My father and I used a variety of firearms to hunt deer, ranging from Rifles to Shotguns....(12 gauge Browning Semi-auto with slugs).

I know alot of people who use shotguns to hunt deer.


16 posted on 07/28/2004 9:56:29 AM PDT by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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To: Carling
Not unheard of, particularly back east where population density precludes safe hunting with rifles.

In some states, it is the only way you can hunt deer...ie. Ohio I believe. They use slugs.

17 posted on 07/28/2004 9:56:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Carling

When did Hillary claim to be a duck hunter? I must have missed that one.


18 posted on 07/28/2004 9:57:25 AM PDT by EggsAckley (.....John Edwards: The political equivalent of breast implants.....)
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To: dirtboy

No, not if you expect to get scratches and put in for a purple heart.....


19 posted on 07/28/2004 9:57:30 AM PDT by Imagine
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To: dts32041

Apparently hunting means a completely different thing out in the East.

Meh, I thought it was another example of pandering, and no one else said you can't hunt with your deer slugs there ace.


20 posted on 07/28/2004 9:57:32 AM PDT by Carling
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