Posted on 08/04/2004 5:09:23 AM PDT by BluegrassScholar
Robert Grodin is a book seller with no other real credentials.
The diagram on post 25 is a lie??? Wow! Not much gets past you, does it?
I do not have a favorite theory about the JFK shooting. However, if I am still alive when the official papers are released, I have promised my mother that I will go to her grave and shout out who-dun-it.
As mentioned in my other posts on this thread, I have no doubt whatsoever that the head shot came from the rear. Stills and slo-mo of the Zapruder film show quite graphically that the upper right front part of the president's head literally blew apart. This is the area I, as a non-medical professional, would say is the right temple area.
What I have never understood is the relationship of the back wound and the throat wound. As mentioned, a special narrated by Walter Cronkite showed how one shot could follow a straight path from the building through JFK's back and throat, and into Connolly. But that trajectory depends on JFK leaning forward in his seat. It may very well have happened that way, but there's no known photographic or witness evidence to prove it. At least none known to me.
Have you read Groden's book? It's really worthwhile...if nothing else, the collection of photos are incredible in themselves.
I know about the OJ mess. I was waiting for someone to bring that up. Groden stepped into s**t up to his eyeballs when he got involved with that. But when it comes to the JFK assassination, he's very good on that subject.
I certainly wouldn't say that Groden's theories are the only plausible ones but on the basis of what I've read so far, it seems the most reasonable.
The autopsy report said that the wound was 5 1/4 inches from below the Mastoid Process. That's the bony thing behind your ear. There is also a picture with a ruler next to the wound somewhere on the net. The throat exit wound clipped the tie knot.
I've been somewhat open-minded about the various theories of the assassination, but most of the diagrams showing the seating of Kennedy and Connally position them as this does -- on a horizontal plane. Kennedy sat higher than Connally; Kennedy had on a back brace; Connally was somewhat slouched in his seat. Is it possible that a shot could have traversed both men and created the wounds? Yes, but I don't believe the 'Magic Bullet' was the one.
Ok, I'll bite. If a bullet hit Kennedy in the upper back region 5 1/4 below the Mastoid Process going 2000 feet a second, where did the bullet go after that?
"I for one have, and have always had a problem with the magic bullet. Two to three shooters makes way more sense to me."
Thats always the conclusion I come back to. Like I said initially, this is the only viable "conspiracy theory" I'm familiar with in the course of my life.
We will see what this lastest attempt to resolve the 40 year questions will bring us.
When Bob Groden goes to conspiracy conventions and tells the audience how the autopsy photos and x-rays or the backyard photos of Oswald are faked, he is a big hit. When Groden testified before the House Select Committee on Assassinations, they listened politely, and said they didn't believe him.But what happened when Groden testified in an adversarial proceeding, when counsel for the other side had a strong interesting in proving him to be a complete idiot? The carnage was legandary!
The following are portions of transcripts from the O.J. Simpson civil trial. Groden testified for the defense, claiming that a photo of Simpson in Bruno Magli shoes had been forged. -Bogus Conspiracy "Photo Experts"
If you buy the Warren Report as the truth, then there is nothing to discuss. For me, there is too much still missing or held as 'National Security' to believe we will ever get all of the information. Indeed, much of the record is missing -- either intentionally or through sloppy procedures -- giving rise to all the differing scenarios. You do not have the truth; the Warren Commission didn't allow it to be developed.
Shoebomber Reid didn't do his act without help. McVeigh and Nichols were not the sole creators of the OKC blast. Oswald was not the sole participant in the assassination. All of these were deeply involved; none were the only ones involved.
IMO
You people are so predictable. I didn't ask for some bullsh!t soapbox speech. I asked you where the bullet went. If you can't answer that don't waste the bandwidth.
No it can't.
In the first place, there are no gunshots on that recording.
In the second place, we already have copies of it. All that's really going on is the archivists wanting an archival copy that they can reproduce.
No, that's reading too much into a story.
The National Archives is not investigating anything. They commissioned some people to produce a new tape of the dictabelt using a technology that won't damage the original.
They've done so because a number of people have recently made requests for copies of the dictabelt and the Archives has been unable to fulfill those requests.
Last year was the 40th anniversary and Court TV was unable to obtain a copy from the Archives for the show they did about the acoustics evidence. Others have also asked. They were able to complete their work by using the older copies we already have.
That's correct.
I want to know who decides what gets sealed in the National Archives for 50-75 years!
........Uh,,.............Sandy Burgur?
This is the only "conspiracy theory" I've ever given any weight to. I have always felt the "magic bullet" was unbelievable simply because there is no damage to the tip, and because of the House Assasination Committee's report stating the high percentage that four shots, not three, were in fact fired that day.I'll be watching for this when it comes out. If you hear anything else on the subject, please ping me if its no trouble.
The Archives is not doing a study, they are commissioning a copy. There have been other things out about those however, and there will be more soon.
Check this link: http://www.geocities.com/jfkdocs for information about the acoustics evidence. The most recent material is at the bottom of the page.
Nearly all of the material has been released.
But who has the power to seal it for 75 years?
ping to post #117.
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