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Tape of Kennedy's Killing Is Getting Digital Analysis
New York Times ^ | August 3, 2004 | MICHAEL JANOFSKY

Posted on 08/04/2004 5:09:23 AM PDT by BluegrassScholar

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To: stockpirate

"When the shots were fired, photos show a lone man with an umbrella open on the grass by the limo. His umbrella was open and he was standing. Everyone around him are laying on the ground. Photos show that as the car neared him he opened the umbrella, that is when the shots were fired. It is not that hard. You have 1 shooter and 1 spotter. They have never been able to locate this "umbrella man" to speak to him."

You're wrong. His name is Louis Steven Witt, and he was interviewed within days of the shooting. He said he was protesting JFK by aping Chamberlain.


141 posted on 11/22/2004 7:33:33 PM PST by JehngisKahn
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To: Tares

The Z Thesis

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/zthesis.html


142 posted on 11/22/2004 8:10:20 PM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Richard Kimball
Thanks, it's good to see that he wasn't trusted with a magazine. My DI would have broken him of mishandling weapons in a heartbeat.
143 posted on 11/22/2004 9:13:51 PM PST by investigateworld (( ......"Bob, I bled from every wound", Sen. J. Kerry to Sen. R. Dole ...))
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To: JehngisKahn

I have never seen anything that indicates what you have said to be true.

Read Six Seconds in Dallas.


144 posted on 11/23/2004 3:36:43 AM PST by stockpirate (Not we must take our mandate and do the deed.)
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To: Petruchio
From the link you posted:

The panel, sponsored by the 1996 JFK Lancer Conference was held at the Dallas Grand Hotel. Beside Professor Fetzer and Mr. Lifton, other experts on the panel included Dr. David Mantik, physicist and radiation oncologist; Jack White, a photographic expert with 33 years of experience;...
All you need to know about so-called experts. Scroll down about two thirds of the way down the page to read about the Z thesis.
145 posted on 11/23/2004 6:49:36 AM PST by Tares
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To: stockpirate
I have never seen anything that indicates what you have said to be true.

He is correct, except for the part about being interviewed withing days. Louis Witt was tracked down by the HSCA.

You cannot read conspiracy books and get the truth, it doesn't matter how many. Most of them take great liberty with the facts, or simply repeat the accepted myths about the evidence. If you want to know the truth you must first set aside the conspiracy books and look at the evidence.

Read Six Seconds in Dallas.

A decent book, but an old one. Written before the HSCA, which debunked a lot of the misinformation that was spread about. Its author is firmly committed to a conspiracy and isn't going to let anything change his mind. :-)

146 posted on 11/23/2004 7:41:40 AM PST by mlo
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To: stockpirate

Then you've never even read the Warren Report, since it is in there--and much else besides.

Google the name.


147 posted on 11/23/2004 7:55:21 AM PST by JehngisKahn
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To: stockpirate

Sorry. I misspoke in my previous post. His name appears in the House Select Committee report. And I misspoke earlier when I said within days.

What happened was the umbrella man theory was brought up before the HSC and they issued an appeal--and he came forward within days.

He was a Dallas Insurance man.


148 posted on 11/23/2004 8:00:28 AM PST by JehngisKahn
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To: mlo

"Louis Witt was tracked down by the HSCA."

Right. Or rather the HSC made a public appeal and people who knew him identified him. And then he came forward.


149 posted on 11/23/2004 8:02:32 AM PST by JehngisKahn
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To: stockpirate; Wolfstar; The Good Doctor; t_skoz
using the laws of physics that the only way Kennedy could have been thrown back wards AFN to the right at that speed was caused by a tremendous force coming from the right front side of his body. The area of the grassy knoll.

Thank you - that clinches it for me. Oswald acted alone. The laws of physics - particularly that of terminal ballistics - dictate that such a strike on such a target may very well move the target toward the shooter.

I've never looked deeply into the event, and misunderstood where the "grassy knoll" was. Your post prompted me to finally dig up a map:

Having studied the subject a bit, looking at this picture, having seen the Zapruder film (and having attended a lecture on the subject by the guy Kodak sent to the Warren Commission to analyze the film), and knowing a bit about terminal ballistics, it is plainly obvious that:
- Oswald chose an excellent position
- the shots are easily made in that configuration
- the wounds & reactions are consistent with what Oswald presumably did
- there is no need for a conspiratorial second (or more) shooter.
The simplicity is plain, especially with Oswald being a former Marine and left-handed.

If one insists on a conspiracy, I am reminded of the Penn & Teller trick/illusion "Smoking":
With Penn describing the situation, Teller walks on stage smoking a cigarette, stomps it out, and lights another - simple enough. But wait - it's a conspiracy! it's a trick! Everything Teller does is faked: the cig, the smoke, the drop, the crush, the draw, the light, the puff - everything is not what it seems, as the cig is a tube, the smoke is dust, the drop is a feignt and palm, the crush is acted, the draw is de-palming the tube, the light is a flashlight, and the puff is more dust. Sure, a man smoking could be a conspiracy, and is in this case ... but that doesn't mean I suspect a smoker on the street of faking a puff.

3 shots, one shooter, everything lines up. I'll go with Occam's Razor.

150 posted on 11/23/2004 8:38:32 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Shooter 2.5

I now believe that the same bullet went through Kennedy and Connally and there was enough time to get the three shots off. Those computer animations are pretty compelling. Plus Oliver Stone has never been right.


151 posted on 11/23/2004 8:42:57 AM PST by xcullen (DC Conservative)
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To: daler
Seems to me I saw a suppressed photo of the "Tourist Guy" sitting next to J B Connally in the motorcade.


152 posted on 11/23/2004 8:49:45 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: stockpirate
I have read over 50 books on this subject.

I don't know what happened, but I can guarantee that 50 books arguing for the standard interpretation would not sell many copies.

153 posted on 11/23/2004 8:55:46 AM PST by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: daler

If you don't see the photos, click on the link and flip thru the gallery. The "9/11 Tourist Guy" appears with Oswald posing with the Carinco (sp?), in the limo's front passenger seat, and when Oswald meets Ruby the hard way.


154 posted on 11/23/2004 8:59:47 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: ctdonath2
Has anybody studied HOW Oswald reacts to these question if he kill the President,When there are murder here the police get them in front of the TV camera;s to see how the react, and the can tell they are lying, or not, When you watch Oswald somehow he looks to me like he it telling the truth, Its something that I have always felt.
155 posted on 11/23/2004 9:01:18 AM PST by lillybet (A)
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To: lillybet
Yep,......I'm waiting for Moore to make the Russian version movie.....

/sarcasm

156 posted on 11/23/2004 9:04:55 AM PST by maestro
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To: lillybet

I always found that interview to be odd as well.

The only other piece of infomration that I've wondered about was where Oswald was reported to have been seen in the break room by the police officer who rushed to the 6th floor.

Plus the issue of Ruby killing him. It's just not all there. I would say he was involved or played out in some way, but I don't think he was the only one. Regardless of where the shots were fired.


157 posted on 11/23/2004 9:41:19 AM PST by Rev DMV
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To: Rev DMV

Its the look on his face, When he goes to the interview room, its not often shown. When he ask everybody to please help me.


158 posted on 11/23/2004 9:55:56 AM PST by lillybet (A)
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To: lillybet

Given that almost everything Oswald said to the press was an easily documentable lie--that isn't a very accurate indicator.


159 posted on 11/23/2004 6:35:32 PM PST by JehngisKahn
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