DYNAMITE Vietnam POWs Say Kerry's Words and Deeds Were Used by Guards to Torture Them

INSIGHT ^ | AUGUST 4 EDITION | Richard Tomkins, UPI White House correspondent

[Liz]

Jim Warner, a prisoner of the North Vietnamese in the Hoa Lo prison complex -- known to U.S. servicemen as the Hanoi Hilton -- remembers Kerry. He became acquainted with him, he said, when a North Vietnamese guard and interrogator the prisoners nicknamed "Boris" took Warner to the quiz shack in the complex's punishment camp called "Skid Row" in May 1971. During a four-hour propaganda and harassment session, Boris pulled papers from his pocket and gave them to Warner to think about, he said. Some were clippings from a leftist newspaper in the United States. The other was a typewritten transcript of Kerry's testimony before a U.S. Senate panel in which he repeated allegations of U.S. troops routinely committing atrocities, attacking the war and saying communism was not a threat in Vietnam.

Let's see former POW McCain's comments on this.

[mcg1969]

If John McCain personally wants to forgive John Kerry and let bygones be bygones, then that is his prerogative. For him to condemn others who have not done so---when Kerry has done nothing of a repentant nature to earn their forgiveness---is appalling.

[45Auto]

Kerry opened this can of worms and now he is going to have to eat his fill.

[LOC1]

"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?"
-- Steven Gardner

The above quote was from a press conference given at the National Press Club in Washington on May 4, 2004. You may view Steven’s comments at the following web site. Just scroll down to Steven’s picture and click on it.

http://swift1.he.net/~swiftvet/index.php?topic=SwiftVetQuotes

Searching through that web site, you will find 250 men who served on Swift boats, including the entire chain of command above Lt. Kerry, agree with Steven Gardner that Kerry is not fit to be Commander-in-Chief. That compares to the 13 crew members who support his candidacy.

[what's up]

No wonder so many of these Vets hate Kerry...he was in part responsible for some of the horrific pain they suffered.

The public DOES NOT KNOW about the Vietnam/Watergate era. I hope the Switfvets can contribute to an educational period in which many who are ignorant of what really went on can learn.

Above all....how could a man responsible for Veterans' torture be considered for President? Horrific.

[Warren]

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[onyx]

John McCain needs to stop worrying about what the media and democrats will think about him and STAND UP and be counted as a warrior for the truth.

McCain's disdain for Kerry is widely known, but he hasn't
publically stated it for a good many years.

[TexasTransplant]

McCain will have nothing to say, he understands that what he said, what Fonda said, what MacNamera said, what other prisnors said, basically it didn't take much to instigate a beating.
Inflating a Kerry sized head could be hazardous, McCain won't say anything.

TT

[MattinNJ]

Now this would be the death blow to the Kerry campaign-an ad by former POW's who said that they were made to listen to this Kerry propoganda while being held captive.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

[pt17]

Liz, shouldn't your link have been Insight Mag?

[BikerTrash]

Now this would be the death blow to the Kerry campaign-an ad by former POW's who said that they were made to listen to this Kerry propoganda while being held captive.

One would think. But anyone who would even consider voting for Kerry probably thinks this is a good thing.

After all, America is always wrong, ya know?</sarcasm>

[Liz]

Oops.


Thanks for posting the link.

[Steven W.]

I'm somewhat reluctant to post this clip from the article given the degree of anger & outrage I feel at one Hanoi John French Kerry for his traiterous actions & how they affected good men ... but ...

Galanti said he didn't know Kerry's name then, although he had seen a newspaper photograph while in captivity that showed someone who looked like Lurch (a character in The Addams Family television show in the mid-sixties).

Sounds like a joke I heard on late-night last week to the effect, "good news for the DNC is after the convention more people now recognize a picture of John Kerry ... bad news is that they think he's the father in The Munsters".

[Spunky]

From Article: The second quote from the same New Yorker article the Kerry campaign wanted cited was from Kerry in the same interview: "'We started talking about the war, and Vietnam, prison -- what happened to him and all that. ... Nothing had brought us together before, and we just talked. We talked about what I had done.' Kerry was referring to the episode that McCain had denounced in the 1984 campaign. 'But by now it wasn't a big hurdle,' he went on. 'To his credit, he didn't make it one. He made it clear that he had moved beyond all that. ... The war was a tough period for a lot of people, for a lot of reasons. Both of us decided to put all that kind of stuff behind us, and work together at something.'"

Only problem is Kerry didn't leave his stuff behind him. He decided to glorify it.

[blackie]

John F'n Kerry is a lying traitor ~ Bump!

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

It had to happen. Sooner or later this nation had to deal with the treatment of our Viet Nam Troops. Face to face.

Kerry was counting on the short attention span of the American Public and the voters under 45 who cannot grasp the hatred hanging in the air.

It does not take a rocket scientist to know the Viet Nam Vets do not have such a short attention span. They may have come home, tried to put it behind them and got on with their lives, but they never, ever forgot. It is not hatred. It is not dirty political trickery or "shadowy 527 groups."

It is a group of Viet Nam Veterans who have decided to endure anything and everything the left (and even some on the right) decides hurl at them to stand up for their beliefs and to do what is right.

Lawyers and character asassinations are the modern subsitutes for spit and blood. The difference is that now the vets are home to fight, not still on the battlefields or in the prison camps.

Nothing, nothing has changed in regard to John Kerry's treatment of Viet Nam Veterans.

[Liz]

Thanks for the link. Lots of good stuff there.

[PurpleHeartHaze]

Every time I see Kerry on TV (I know it's very un-Pennsylvanian of me), I say for, many good reasons, "It's on b*tch!!" Then I promptly change the channel to something that doesn't make me want to kick in my tv.

[ride the whirlwind]

"It didn't make us want to give up, it just made us feel discouraged that there were people who felt that way about us," said Warner,

These were the strong ones. There were some who didn't make it.

Going to campaign against John Kerry is something I wouldn't consider.

I will never understand McCain's attitude.