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Evolution's 'Dictatorship' -- Student Struggles to Get Opposite Viewpoint Heard
AgapePress ^ | 16 August 2004 | Ed Vitagliano

Posted on 08/16/2004 9:40:47 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Samuel Chen was a high school sophomore who believed in freedom of speech and the unfettered pursuit of knowledge. He thought his public high school did, too, but when it came to the subject of evolution -- well, now he's not so sure.

In October 2002, Chen began working to get Dr. Michael Behe, professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University, to give a lecture at Emmaus High School in Emmaus, Pennsylvania.

Chen, who was co-chair of a student group that tries to stress the importance of objectivity on controversial issues, knew that Behe would be perfect, since the group was examining evolution as a topic. The author of Darwin's Black Box, a critique of the foundational underpinnings of evolution, Behe had presented his work and debated the subject in universities in the U.S. and England.

Behe agreed to come in February 2004 and give an after-school lecture entitled, "Evolution: Truth or Myth?" As the school year drew to a close in 2003, Chen had all the preliminaries nailed down: he had secured Behe's commitment, received approval from school officials, and reserved the school auditorium.

Then he found out just how entrenched Darwinist orthodoxy was in the science department at Emmaus. By the following August, Chen had entered into a six-month battle to preserve the Behe lecture.

As the struggle unfolded, it became obvious that those who opposed Behe coming to Emmaus didn't seem to care about his credentials. In addition to publishing over 35 articles in refereed biochemical journals, Darwin's Black Box was internationally reviewed in over 100 publications and named by National Review and World magazine as one of the 100 most important books of the 20th century.

Instead, it was Behe's rejection of Darwinism -- in favor of what is called "intelligent design" -- that drove opposition. According to the Discovery Institute, of which Behe is a fellow, this theory holds "that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."

The head of the science department, John Hnatow, sent a statement to every faculty member in the school stressing that Emmaus held to the official policy of the National Science Teachers Association. That policy states: "There is no longer a debate among scientists about whether evolution has taken place."

It appeared there would be no debate at Emmaus, either. Some of the science teachers would not even allow Chen to address their classes and explain to students what Behe's lecture would be about.

Chen said various tactics were apparently used to undercut the event, including an attempt to cancel the lecture and fold the student organization without the knowledge of Chen and other members; requiring that the necessary funds for the lecture be raised much faster than for other student events; and moving the lecture from the auditorium to the school cafeteria.

One science teacher in particular, Carl Smartschan, seemed particularly riled about the upcoming lecture. Smartschan took it upon himself to talk to every teacher in the science department, insisting that intelligent design was "unscientific" and "scary stuff." He asked the principal to cancel the lecture, and then, when the principal refused, asked the faculty advisor for the student group to halt the lecture. Smartschan even approached Chen and demanded that the student organization pay to have an evolutionist come to lecture later in the year.

Smartschan's campaign to get the Behe lecture canceled was surprising to Chen because the event was scheduled after school, and not during class time, and was sponsored by a student group, not the school itself. Nevertheless, Chen persevered. The lecture was a success, attracting more than 500 people.

In the process, however, Chen's struggle took its toll. His health deteriorated over the course of the controversy, to the point where he collapsed three times in one month, including once at school. "My health has been totally junked," he told AFA Journal.

Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney and senior policy advisor for the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy, is advising Chen on his options for the coming year. Fahling said, "Schools are not allowed to interfere with viewpoints with which they disagree, and schools cannot disrupt the right of the students to participate in the academic and intellectual life."

Despite the hardship, Chen said he would do it all over again because the issue is so important. "I feel that there's a dictatorship on academic freedom in our public schools now," he said, adding, "I refer to evolution education as a tyranny .... You can't challenge it in our schools. Kids have been thrown out of class for challenging it."

That tyranny can be intimidating to students. "Some of the students who support me are afraid to speak out, especially because they saw how the science department reacted," Chen said. "They have a fear of speaking out against it in their classes."

On the other hand, he added that some students "are now questioning evolution, some for the first time."

That may be the first step in the overthrow of Darwin's dictatorship.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: behe; crevolist; darwin; evolution; intelligentdesign; scienceeducation
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To: PatrickHenry

Does this guy think that all the questions surrounding Noah's ark can be answered by claiming all the animals were babies? LOL!


201 posted on 08/16/2004 5:01:07 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Everybody wants prostethic foreheads on their real heads...)
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To: jonno

Science and religion should not be mixed.

Scientists do not mix them, but religious people think that they should.

Well, fact is, that your faith is not scientific, and no scientist is going to scientifically study your religion and still be considered a scientist.

Religion: an answer looking for verification of that answer

Science: Questions looking for answers that normally lead to more questions.

It could probably be done a lot better, perhaps some of the other "evolutionists" could clean that up a little bit


202 posted on 08/16/2004 5:01:47 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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To: VadeRetro
Just a reminder, August 30th is the Third Annual Gall Bladder Awareness Day.

Thanks for the pic Vade!

Just about to eat dinner too ;^)

203 posted on 08/16/2004 5:22:35 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: PatrickHenry
Hey, Mr. Cool Objective Scientist--you post on this subject often and regularly in FR. When challenged, is this squeaking the way to respond? Barely a week goes buy that you do not offer another pro-evolution thread for the Benighted Ones.

It is not unreasonable to assume that you are an advocate, an evangelist, if you will.

If one reads your fruit-fly thread, you attempt an early demonization of anyone who questions(ed) that the flies were not yet extant (and they were not extant, and are still not extant after many more generations), and would not be produced through any natural understanding of what evolution is, anyway. The scientist is a very prominent one at a very important research institution. If we can't trust him, who can we trust?

I don't happen to be a believer in ID--it's as silly as the whole Magical Evolving process that the scientists here believe in so passionately.

Evolution is highly useful as a descriptive mechanism--but has given rise to its own dogmatists.

204 posted on 08/16/2004 5:25:19 PM PDT by Mamzelle (for a post-neo conservatism)
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To: Jaguar1942
"God did it" is lousy science.......

Why does one need to state it was ‘God’ at all within the realm of science? (see panspermia – not that ‘I’ believe in it…)

And ID is exactly saying what again?

Is there anything that ‘nature’ alone cannot do? Is ‘nature did it’ lousy science? 'ID' does not name any entity physical or not... If nothing but ‘nature’ can create than current science is naming the designer – not ID.

Teleology and non-teleology are not necessarily an either/or situation in that they can exist together, and have existed together in the recent past.

History Break:
I am not trying to be crass, but do you know what caused teleology to be excluded from science?

205 posted on 08/16/2004 5:31:27 PM PDT by Heartlander (How odd it is that anyone should not see that all observation must be for or against some view)
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To: Jaguar1942; jonno; Right Wing Professor
RWP summed this up very nicely on another thread.

All the "crevo" regulars should read it.

206 posted on 08/16/2004 5:37:46 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow
Here's the long-ago thread that has the lady in a snit: Changing One Gene Launches New Fly Species. Observe the last few posts, a few months apart. They're her periodic pings to hold me accountable for the guy's research, and to demand updates from me. It's obsessive, but at this stage it's little more than low-grade stalking. No big deal.
207 posted on 08/16/2004 5:39:01 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (If I never respond to you, maybe it's because I think you're an idiot.)
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To: PatrickHenry
It's obsessive, but at this stage it's little more than low-grade stalking. No big deal.

Be grateful you're not an astronaut.

208 posted on 08/16/2004 5:42:09 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: PatrickHenry
I happen to think it poor FR ettiquette to speak around someone rather than directly to them. But I'll work with it anyway.

The point of redrawing attn to that thread is the nature of the rapid generations of the fruit fly. As of September, there will be three hundred potential new generations since the original claim of "launching" a new species. Yet, no New Fly. With each generation comes a new opportunity, and a further repudiation of the claim of "speciation".

209 posted on 08/16/2004 5:43:14 PM PDT by Mamzelle (if you can't reply directly, maybe you just don't have the guts)
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To: PatrickHenry

"Are you wiiiith me Dr. Wu? Or are you reeeeeeaaly just a shaaadow of the maaan that I once knew?"


210 posted on 08/16/2004 5:46:34 PM PDT by RightWingNilla
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To: Heartlander

Because teleology is not scientific?

How's that? did I pass your test there professor?


211 posted on 08/16/2004 5:51:42 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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To: microgood
For example, I want to know how life started on this planet and evolution cannot tell me

Sure it can. See below.

(unless you believe in primordial soup and lightning bolts).

I believe in lightning.

I also believe that the oceans in the primordial Earth weren't pure distilled water, they were indeed a "soup" of various chemicals which were not all inert, and therefore reactions were taking place in it -- as is the case even today.

Which one are *you* having trouble with?

But if you're vaguely trying to ridicule the creationists' favorite straw-man cartoon version of abiogenesis, I must ask whether you're doing it out of disingenuousness, or out of ignorance?

Here's some material to educate you on what you're misrepresenting:

The Path from the RNA World Anthony M. Poole, Daniel C. Jeffares, David Penny: Institute of Molecular Biosciences, Massey University

Abstract: We describe a sequential (step by step) Darwinian model for the evolution of life from the late stages of the RNA world through to the emergence of eukaryotes and prokaryotes. The starting point is our model, derived from current RNA activity, of the RNA world just prior to the advent of genetically-encoded protein synthesis. By focusing on the function of the protoribosome we develop a plausible model for the evolution of a protein-synthesizing ribosome from a high-fidelity RNA polymerase that incorporated triplets of oligonucleotides. With the standard assumption that during the evolution of enzymatic activity, catalysis is transferred from RNA M RNP M protein, the first proteins in the ``breakthrough organism'' (the first to have encoded protein synthesis) would be nonspecific chaperone-like proteins rather than catalytic. Moreover, because some RNA molecules that pre-date protein synthesis under this model now occur as introns in some of the very earliest proteins, the model predicts these particular introns are older than the exons surrounding them, the ``introns-first'' theory. Many features of the model for the genome organization in the final RNA world ribo-organism are more prevalent in the eukaryotic genome and we suggest that the prokaryotic genome organization (a single, circular genome with one center of replication) was derived from a ``eukaryotic-like'' genome organization (a fragmented linear genome with multiple centers of replication). The steps from the proposed ribo-organism RNA genome M eukaryotic-like DNA genome M prokaryotic-like DNA genome are all relatively straightforward, whereas the transition prokaryotic-like genome M eukaryotic-like genome appears impossible under a Darwinian mechanism of evolution, given the assumption of the transition RNA M RNP M protein. A likely molecular mechanism, ``plasmid transfer,'' is available for the origin of prokaryotic-type genomes from an eukaryotic-like architecture. Under this model prokaryotes are considered specialized and derived with reduced dependence on ssRNA biochemistry. A functional explanation is that prokaryote ancestors underwent selection for thermophily (high temperature) and/or for rapid reproduction (r selection) at least once in their history.

And:
On the origins of cells: a hypothesis for the evolutionary transitions from abiotic geochemistry to chemoautotrophic prokaryotes, and from prokaryotes to nucleated cells William Martin and Michael J. Russell

Abstract: All life is organized as cells. Physical compartmentation from the environment and self-organization of self-contained redox reactions are the most conserved attributes of living things, hence inorganic matter with such attributes would be life’s most likely forebear. We propose that life evolved in structured iron monosulphide precipitates in a seepage site hydrothermal mound at a redox, pH and temperature gradient between sulphide-rich hydrothermal fluid and iron(II)-containing waters of the Hadean ocean floor. The naturally arising, three-dimensional compartmentation observed within fossilized seepage-site metal sulphide precipitates indicates that these inorganic compartments were the precursors of cell walls and membranes found in free-living prokaryotes. The known capability of FeS and NiS to catalyse the synthesis of the acetyl-methylsulphide from carbon monoxide and methylsulphide, constituents of hydrothermal fluid, indicates that pre-biotic syntheses occurred at the inner surfaces of these metal-sulphide-walled compartments, which furthermore restrained reacted products from diffusion into the ocean, providing sufficient concentrations of reactants to forge the transition from geochemistry to biochemistry. The chemistry of what is known as the RNA-world could have taken place within these naturally forming, catalyticwalled compartments to give rise to replicating systems. Sufficient concentrations of precursors to support replication would have been synthesized in situ geochemically and biogeochemically, with FeS (and NiS) centres playing the central catalytic role. The universal ancestor we infer was not a free-living cell, but rather was confined to the naturally chemiosmotic, FeS compartments within which the synthesis of its constituents occurred. The first free-living cells are suggested to have been eubacterial and archaebacterial chemoautotrophs that emerged more than 3.8 Gyr ago from their inorganic confines. We propose that the emergence of these prokaryotic lineages from inorganic confines occurred independently, facilitated by the independent origins of membrane-lipid biosynthesis: isoprenoid ether membranes in the archaebacterial and fatty acid ester membranes in the eubacterial lineage. The eukaryotes, all of which are ancestrally heterotrophs and possess eubacterial lipids, are suggested to have arisen ca. 2 Gyr ago through symbiosis involving an autotrophic archaebacterial host and a heterotrophic eubacterial symbiont, the common ancestor of mitochondria and hydrogenosomes. The attributes shared by all prokaryotes are viewed as inheritances from their confined universal ancestor. The attributes that distinguish eubacteria and archaebacteria, yet are uniform within the groups, are viewed as relics of their phase of differentiation after divergence from the non-free-living universal ancestor and before the origin of the free-living chemoautotrophic lifestyle. The attributes shared by eukaryotes with eubacteria and archaebacteria, respectively, are viewed as inheritances via symbiosis. The attributes unique to eukaryotes are viewed as inventions specific to their lineage. The origin of the eukaryotic endomembrane system and nuclear membrane are suggested to be the fortuitous result of the expression of genes for eubacterial membrane lipid synthesis by an archaebacterial genetic apparatus in a compartment that was not fully prepared to accommodate such compounds, resulting in vesicles of eubacterial lipids that accumulated in the cytosol around their site of synthesis. Under these premises, the most ancient divide in the living world is that between eubacteria and archaebacteria, yet the steepest evolutionary grade is that between prokaryotes and eukaryotes.

And:
The emergence of life from iron monosulphide bubbles at a submarine hydrothermal redox and pH front M. J. RUSSELL & A. J. HALL: Department of Geology and Applied Geology, University of Glasgow

Abstract: Here we argue that life emerged on Earth from a redox and pH front at c. 4.2 Ga. This front occurred where hot (c. 150)C), extremely reduced, alkaline, bisulphide-bearing, submarine seepage waters interfaced with the acid, warm (c. 90)C), iron-bearing Hadean ocean. The low pH of the ocean was imparted by the ten bars of CO2 considered to dominate the Hadean atmosphere/hydrosphere. Disequilibrium between the two solutions was maintained by the spontaneous precipitation of a colloidal FeS membrane. Iron monosulphide bubbles comprising this membrane were inflated by the hydrothermal solution upon sulphide mounds at the seepage sites. Our hypothesis is that the FeS membrane, laced with nickel, acted as a semipermeable catalytic boundary between the two fluids, encouraging synthesis of organic anions by hydrogenation and carboxylation of hydrothermal organic primers. The ocean provided carbonate, phosphate, iron, nickel and protons; the hydrothermal solution was the source of ammonia, acetate, HS", H2 and tungsten, as well as minor concentrations of organic sulphides and perhaps cyanide and acetaldehyde. The mean redox potential (ÄEh) across the membrane, with the energy to drive synthesis, would have approximated to 300 millivolts. The generation of organic anions would have led to an increase in osmotic pressure within the FeS bubbles. Thus osmotic pressure could take over from hydraulic pressure as the driving force for distension, budding and reproduction of the bubbles. Condensation of the organic molecules to polymers, particularly organic sulphides, was driven by pyrophosphate hydrolysis. Regeneration of pyrophosphate from the monophosphate in the membrane was facilitated by protons contributed from the Hadean ocean. This was the first use by a metabolizing system of protonmotive force (driven by natural ÄpH) which also would have amounted to c. 300 millivolts. Protonmotive force is the universal energy transduction mechanism of life. Taken together with the redox potential across the membrane, the total electrochemical and chemical energy available for protometabolism amounted to a continuous supply at more than half a volt. The role of the iron sulphide membrane in keeping the two solutions separated was appropriated by the newly synthesized organic sulphide polymers. This organic take-over of the membrane material led to the miniaturization of the metabolizing system. Information systems to govern replication could have developed penecontemporaneously in this same milieu. But iron, sulphur and phosphate, inorganic components of earliest life, continued to be involved in metabolism.

See also:
Obcells as Proto-Organisms: Membrane Heredity, Lithophosphorylation, and the Origins of the Genetic Code, the First Cells, and Photosynthesis (Journal of Molecular Evolution, Volume 53 - Number 4/5, 2001)

N-Carbamoyl Amino Acid Solid-Gas Nitrosation by NO/NOx: A New Route to Oligopeptides via alpha-Amino Acid N-Carboxyanhydride. Prebiotic Implications (Journal of Molecular Evolution, Volume 48 - Number 6, 1999

Chemical interactions between amino acid and RNA: multiplicity of the levels of specificity explains origin of the genetic code (Naturwissenschaften, Volume 89 Number 12 December 2002)

The Nicotinamide Biosynthetic Pathway Is a By-Product of the RNA World (Journal of Molecular Evolution, Volume 52 - Number 1, 2001)

On the RNA World: Evidence in Favor of an Early Ribonucleopeptide World

Inhibition of Ribozymes by Deoxyribonucleotides and the Origin of DNA

Genetic Code Origin: Are the Pathways of Type Glu-tRNAGln to Gln-tRNAGln Molecular Fossils or Not?

Crucial crises in biology: life in the deep biosphere

The Beginnings of Life on Earth

Molecular evolution from abiotic scratch

And so on. It's a rich field of study, to which you do a great disservice by misrepresenting it as nothing more than "primordial soup and lightning bolts".

Perhaps that's the level of *your* understanding of the field, but don't mistake that for the actual state of knowledge on the subject.

212 posted on 08/16/2004 5:52:34 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: RightWingNilla

Thanks for that link.

Very interesting....


213 posted on 08/16/2004 5:53:22 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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To: Ichneumon

Wow, I have got to get that somewhere permanent, do not want to lose that information.

Thanks Ichneumon, that must take a lot of effort, it is not going to be wasted.


214 posted on 08/16/2004 5:59:40 PM PDT by Jaguar1942
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To: RightWingNilla; longshadow

215 posted on 08/16/2004 6:00:27 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (If I never respond to you, maybe it's because I think you're an idiot.)
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To: hopespringseternal

You really have no clue at all, do you? The random mutations cause change. The natural selection picks the best changes. The population is subtly altered. Hence, evolution.


216 posted on 08/16/2004 6:00:49 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: VadeRetro

They let you keep it?


217 posted on 08/16/2004 6:04:56 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Jaguar1942
Because teleology is not scientific?

Actually, for this to be a true statement you would need to say that teleology is 'no longer' scientific and state the reason(s).

218 posted on 08/16/2004 6:11:01 PM PDT by Heartlander (How odd it is that anyone should not see that all observation must be for or against some view)
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To: general_re
I graduated in a class of 750 ;)

Well, the 1500 freshman were what we started with. ;^)

219 posted on 08/16/2004 6:11:46 PM PDT by AndrewC (I am a Bertrand Russell agnostic, even an atheist.</sarcasm>)
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To: Mamzelle
If one reads your fruit-fly thread, you attempt an early demonization of anyone who questions(ed) that the flies were not yet extant (and they were not extant, and are still not extant after many more generations),

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." -- Inigo Montoya

ex·tant   Audio pronunciation of "extant" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (kstnt, k-stnt)
adj.
  1. Still in existence; not destroyed, lost, or extinct: extant manuscripts.
  2. Archaic. Standing out; projecting.


[Latin exstns, exstant- present participle of exstre, to stand out  : ex-, ex- + stre, to stand; see st- in Indo-European Roots.]


220 posted on 08/16/2004 6:12:39 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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