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Kerry camp denies hiding war records
Washington Times ^ | Aug. 18, 2004 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 08/17/2004 10:39:20 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Sen. John Kerry's campaign said yesterday that the Democratic presidential nominee is not hiding any of his war records and has, in fact, released them all to the public.

Mr. O'Neill said the key is Standard Form 180, which, if Mr. Kerry signed it, would let reporters or anyone else write the Defense Department to ask for all of his military records.

John O'Neill, the man who took over Mr. Kerry's command in Vietnam and a co-author of the new book "Unfit for Command," said such records as after-action, hostile fire and casualty reports would show whether Mr. Kerry deserved one of his Purple Hearts.

"If he executes Standard Form 180, he would no longer be the gatekeeper, the gatekeeper would be the U.S. military."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: denial; form180; kerry; kerrysecrets; militaryrecord; swiftboatveterans
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Since Kerry made his 4 months of Vietnam service as the center piece of his campaign, and claiming that his 4 months service in Vietnam qualifies him as Commander in Chief, we have the right to know.

If he were honest, and the records would confirm Kerry's version, wouldn't you think that he would immediately sign ( or would have already signed) the 180 to release all his records?

1 posted on 08/17/2004 10:39:21 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
"If he executes Standard Form 180, he would no longer be the gatekeeper, the gatekeeper would be the U.S. military."

I like O'Neil. He knows what records the voters really need to see - not just those Kerry "chooses" for us to see.

2 posted on 08/17/2004 10:43:56 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: FairOpinion

Well than, Kerry should have no problem in signing the Form 180.


3 posted on 08/17/2004 10:44:15 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)
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To: FairOpinion
Mr. O'Neill said the key is Standard Form 180, which, if Mr. Kerry signed it, would let reporters or anyone else write the Defense Department to ask for all of his military records.

WELL JOHN! COUGH 'EM UP! (He can't. They'll destroy him)

4 posted on 08/17/2004 10:45:26 PM PDT by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

Kerry camp denies hiding war records; they aren't hidden. you just can't look at them.


5 posted on 08/17/2004 10:45:42 PM PDT by smonk
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Sure you can. They're all on his web site. He SAYS so.


6 posted on 08/17/2004 10:47:25 PM PDT by formercalifornian (Democrat platform: Hate, hate, hate, hate, tolerance, hate, hate, hate, hate)
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To: FairOpinion
"Senator Kerry's entire military service record is posted on JohnKerry.com. His entire record," said Michael Meehan, adviser for communications to the campaign, at a press conference called to defend Mr. Kerry

This is another lie ... "gee I thought he was Vice Chair of the Intelligence Committee ... I thought we'd posted his entire service record". Not only have they never released everything, they've been pulling what they had released faster than the daily news cycle!

7 posted on 08/17/2004 10:47:43 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: smonk
Kerry camp denies hiding war records; they aren't hidden. you just can't look at them.

That's the nuance...err...truth.

8 posted on 08/17/2004 10:48:33 PM PDT by highlander_UW (" Just bear in mind that there is no Botox for the soul.". - Sam Smith)
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To: FairOpinion
Kerry cannot sign Form 180, since he actually believes his fantasies that he was Martin Sheen sent on a secret mission to Cambodia in his own Apocalypse Now.

The problem is that he has the wrong Martin Sheen role. I swear he reminds me of Martin Sheen as the paranoid schizophrenic presidential candidate in the original movie version of The Dead Zone.

Disagree with my delusions? I'll sue you for slander!!!

Every aspect of Kerry's memories, utterances, and official "history" are completely fraudulent. He is a pitiful charlatan, absolutely pathetic, unfit for any office requiring moral character.

9 posted on 08/17/2004 10:48:37 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: FairOpinion

Hidden and released were entirely interchangeable back then.


10 posted on 08/17/2004 10:49:05 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Commander McBrag and the Cambodian Caper)
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To: FairOpinion

I didn't hide my war records...before I did hide my war records, says Kerry.


11 posted on 08/17/2004 10:51:10 PM PDT by swilhelm73 (When Saddam Hussein ruled Iraq, his son murdered 2,000 people in the Abu Gharib prison in *one* day.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
This is HILARIOUS:

Mr. Sandusky said it doesn't surprise him that Mr. Kerry may have forgotten where he was then because, like many serving in Vietnam, they didn't want to think about Christmas. "We didn't know where we were at for Christmas," he said. "If [Mr. Kerry] said it, I believe it. I've known John Kerry for 35 years, and he's never lied to me."

12 posted on 08/17/2004 10:51:17 PM PDT by Steven W.
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To: FairOpinion

Kerry was sh*t canned from VN. Anybody can see that.


13 posted on 08/17/2004 10:51:35 PM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: FairOpinion

Military Records Requests
We are using this fact sheet to ensure a timely response to requests for information from military records (discharge certificate, record of training, death record, and so on) received at the Department of Defense (DoD). It is also a response to those citizens who have been erroneously referred to us for a "booklet on obtaining military records." Contrary to published accounts, DoD has not prepared such a booklet, but we trust the following information will be useful.

The individual military departments do not maintain files or records pertaining to individuals no longer on active duty. When an individual is separated from military service (because of retirement, discharge from active duty, or death), his/her Field Personnel File (containing all military and health records) is forwarded for storage to the National Personnel Records Center (Military), 9700 Page Boulevard, St. Louis, Missouri 63172. The Records Center is under the jurisdiction of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) of the United States Government.

An individual's complete service record is available to the former service member or, if deceased, to his/her next of kin (parents, spouse, or children). Limited information (such as dates of service, awards, and training) is available to anyone. Not available to the general public is information which would invade an individual's privacy; for example, medical records, Social Security number, or present address.

The St. Louis Center receives many requests for service records each week, so a request will be processed with greater speed and accuracy if the requester uses a Standard Form 180, "Request Pertaining to Military Records". You may obtain a copy by downloading pdf versions now; by calling us at 703-697-5737; or by using our Defenselink Comment/Question Form on the Questions page. Form 180, which contains instructions, is also available from most veterans organizations or by writing to the National Personnel Records Center. If requesting the records of a relative, a requester should mention the relationship to the former member (brother, uncle, or other). There is no charge for this service to former service members or their next of kin. For others, a nominal fee is charged for research and reproduction costs. (In this regard, files at the Records Center are maintained as historical records only and are not updated to reflect current data on the former service member.)

Note: Of incidental interest for individuals compiling family histories: the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), 8th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20408, (telephone: 202-501-5400) provides assistance to those interested in genealogy. NARA normally charges a nominal fee for research and reproduction costs.


14 posted on 08/17/2004 10:52:23 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: smonk

Funny how this issue hasnt gone away....

hahaha


15 posted on 08/17/2004 10:52:38 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: concerned about politics; IPWGOP

16 posted on 08/17/2004 10:53:16 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: Steven W.

Quite a life-changing moment.


17 posted on 08/17/2004 10:53:37 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Commander McBrag and the Cambodian Caper)
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To: BurbankKarl

the dims released bob kerrey's records- that should be enough.


18 posted on 08/17/2004 10:55:16 PM PDT by genghis
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Gone away ? The swiftvets need to put out another ad challengeing him to sign 180 and prove that they are wrong.


19 posted on 08/17/2004 10:56:58 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: Steven W.
Mr. Sandusky, in defending Mr. Kerry yesterday, called one accusation — that Mr. Kerry exaggerated the circumstances surrounding the rescue of Lt. Rassmann, and in fact fled the scene before turning around and coming back — "a stretch of the truth so far it's a bald-faced lie." "I had to clear the obstructions to let the boat behind me get out of the way so we could get back over where all the other boats were at. And the firefight started immediately after the three boat got hit," he said. "All the remaining four boats were shooting."

Note that Sandusky does NOT say that they were receiving fire from the banks as claimed by Rassman and Kerry.

20 posted on 08/17/2004 10:57:15 PM PDT by hotshu
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