Posted on 08/22/2004 4:27:46 PM PDT by Pikamax
- Former Republican Sen. Bob Dole suggested Sunday that John Kerry apologize for past testimony before Congress about alleged atrocities during the Vietnam War and joined critics of the Democratic presidential candidate who say he received an early exit from combat for "superficial wounds."
Dole also called on Kerry to release all the records of his service in Vietnam.
Separately, President Bush's re-election campaign continued to deny links to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, an anti-Kerry group running ads in three states, after the resignation of a campaign volunteer who appeared in the group's new ad.
With Kerry taking a break from campaigning, running mate John Edwards said Bush needs to tell the group to pull its ads, a step the White House and the Bush campaign refuse to take. The White House and Bush's campaign note that Kerry has benefited from more than $62 million worth of similar advertising against the president.
"This is the moment of truth for President Bush," Edwards said in North Carolina. "The American people have to hear directly that these ads need to come off the air." Kerry also fought back in another new ad.
Dole told CNN's "Late Edition" that he warned Kerry months ago about going "too far" and that the Democrat may have himself to blame for the current situation, in which polls show him losing support among veterans.
"One day he's saying that we were shooting civilians, cutting off their ears, cutting off their heads, throwing away his medals or his ribbons," Dole said. "The next day he's standing there, `I want to be president because I'm a Vietnam veteran.
"Maybe he should apologize to all the other 2.5 million veterans who served. He wasn't the only one in Vietnam," said Dole, whose World War II wounds left him without the use of his right arm.
Dole added: "And here's, you know, a good guy, a good friend. I respect his record. But three Purple Hearts and never bled that I know of. I mean, they're all superficial wounds. Three Purple Hearts and you're out."
Kerry's supporters rose to his defense.
"Senator Kerry carries shrapnel in his thigh as distinct from President Bush who carries two fillings in his teeth from his service in the Alabama National Guard, which seems to be his only time that he showed up," John Podesta, former chief of staff in the Clinton White House, said on ABC's "This Week."
Bush served stateside in the Guard during the Vietnam years. Podesta's reference was to the White House's release of documents earlier this year showing Bush's dental visits during his Guard years after questions arose about whether he had always reported for duty.
Bush-Cheney campaign manager Ken Mehlman also blamed Kerry for the ongoing debate, complaining on NBC's "Meet the Press" that "Kerry himself has attacked the president for his service during the Vietnam years," while the Republican's campaign has "so strongly praised" Kerry's tour of duty in Vietnam.
The Bush campaign also said the Federal Election Commission should immediately dismiss what it termed a "frivolous" complaint by Kerry's campaign alleging coordination between the re-election effort and the Swift Boat group.
The White House and the Bush campaign for weeks have denied any connection to the Swift Boat organization, whose early financial support came largely from a prominent Texas businessman with longtime ties to the state's top Republicans, including Bush.
The group's latest ad includes a Bush-Cheney volunteer, retired Air Force Col. Ken Cordier, condemning Kerry's 1971 congressional testimony that Dole spoke of. Cordier was a prisoner of war during Vietnam.
"Colonel Cordier did not inform the campaign of his involvement in the advertisement," a Bush campaign statement said. "Because of his involvement Colonel Cordier will no longer participate as a volunteer for Bush-Cheney '04."
A new Kerry TV ad urged the president to "denounce the smear" and 'get back to the issues" because America deserves better." The 30-second commercial, to air in the same three states as the Swift Boat group ad - Ohio, West Virginia and Wisconsin - compares Kerry's situation to the 2000 primary campaign when "Bush smeared John McCain."
McCain has condemned the ads and called on the president to do so, too.
In response, Bush's campaign released a copy of a letter it was sending to television station managers on Monday defending itself from the claims in the new Kerry ad.
Questions mounted over the motives of Kerry's critics, two of whom had praised his service in 1996, even as Kerry's supporters faced questions about the candidate. Among the allegations is that Kerry lied about being in neutral Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968.
"I don't think anyone knows for sure whether or not they were in Cambodia that night, but they were near Cambodia on Christmas Eve," John Hurley, who heads a pro-Kerry veterans group, said on "Fox News Sunday." "He was five miles into Cambodia on a different occasion."
Another allegation is that Kerry was not under enemy fire as after-action reports say he was, an incident for which he received a Bronze Star, one of five medals earned in Vietnam.
"The after-action reports were written from Kerry's spot reports from that day," said Kerry critic Van Odell, also appearing on the same program. "None of us knew he even got the Bronze Star until more recently."
If I had Kerry's PH's, earned or not, I sure wouldn't brag about them out loud.
Here’s a Letter to the Editor I just sent to our local rag. Feel free to copy and send to yours as well. Seems timely.
Well, he himself made them, along with his service, the centerpiece of his campaign.
I could understand it not being an issue if Kerry never mentioned it, but that's the only thing he has (or so he thought).
You cost me another $50 bucks for my brother's neighbor Willis.
I have told the story on another thread about Willis.
Several years before his death, my wife and I, my brother and his wife were swimming at Willis's house one night. I noticed a wicked scar Willis had on his knee and asked if he got it playing football. Since both my brother and I had scarred knees from our football careers at The Citadel, I thought Willis might have been another football pro wannabe.
Willis just chuckled and said it was an old war wound.
After further probing, we learned that Willis was a real, live, snake-eating, jump out of planes that don't have a fricking thing wrong with them Green Beret.
Willis's words:
"That little old scar? Well, I've done a lot of dumbass things in my life but that one took the proverbial cake. Got cut off from my team and about 30 little shits in black PJ's took me prisoner. First night I almost escaped so the next night they took a bayonet and shoved it through my knee joint and ran a steel wire through it and tied it to a tree so I couldn't run off. Damn thing was still festering when I was released two years later."
After commenting on how much it must have hurt, Willis said the biggest hurt was hearing how some Vets were saying things about us that he saw the Viet Cong doing.
"I didn't, and nobody I know didn't do any of the shit those assholes said we did. But I damn sure saw a lot of what those little turds in the black PJ's did, and it wasn't pretty."
This next $50 is for you Willis....RIP!
BTW...Don 't feel too sorry for Willis...As he also said, he found the magic lamp and got his three wishes. A beautiful wife with big breasts who's father owned a chain of liquor stores.
john kerry
"denounce the smear" and "get back to the issues"
john kerry
The boy needs to see a shrink.
Well stated!
ping
Actually, I think what Dole was doing (when he gave advice to Kerry a while back) was shrewdly laying the groundwork for what he (Dole) is saying now. I'll bet you Dole has long resented Kerry's slander of other Vietnam Vets, and knew that his (Dole's) advice to Kerry would fall on deaf ears...but would lend credibility to Dole's criticism later on. Way to go, Dole! It's going to be very tough for the Dems to dismiss Dole.
After his funeral, his wife invited us to view his "shrine."
I never knew one person could have so much fruit salad on his tunic. It took me over an hour to read his commendations from Korea and Viet Nam.
Awesome. I am sure he was quite the character too.
The nicest part was how his wife beamed and laughed when he talked about finding the magic lamp.
would the CIA give a covert job to a guy who is taking home movies of his medals?
First, Mr Edwards has to realize that the 'group' is a legally formed 527 group and that it would be illegal for Mr Bush to tell the group to pull its ads. Doesn't this John Edwards fellow know anything about the law?????????
Edwards & Kerry know full well that Bush can't stop the Swiftvet ads. However, they also know that the public likely doesn't know that, and that the pro-Kerry media won't explain it to the public.
I'm waiting for Lanny Davis to tell Sen Dole to shut up, because he wasn't on the boat with Kerry..
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