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TWO Russian Airliners Have Crashed.

Posted on 08/24/2004 3:01:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

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To: Fitzcarraldo

Police inspect the site of a bomb blast near a bus stop in Moscow, August 24, 2004. The blast originated from a device planted near a bus stop and injured at least 3 people according to city police

681 posted on 08/24/2004 5:57:28 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Re: Tula and Rostov-on-Don are no where near each other.

Agreed. Here's a map from an earlier post.


682 posted on 08/24/2004 5:58:01 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: Myrddin
The files you posted look like the kinds of wargaming simulation stuff my co-workers built in the early 90s. It was tested thoroughly in the software development stages and proved useful to Stormin' Norman on the battlefield.

Really? Now that makes some sense. I used to play some wargame simulations back in the day. A lot of them were very complicated. I suppose a system could be played via e-mail or the like. Have you ever seen a game with commands, instructions, or whatever similar to this? I would if I was a terrorist I would grab something off the shelf, and adapt it to my purpose.

683 posted on 08/24/2004 5:58:24 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Common Tator
The plane would still be seen on radar, even with the Transponder turned off.

Not necessarily.

I've got a fair amount of experience in this area (B-52's, a long time ago). A plane flying at low level is very hard to spot on radar, especially if it follows the right route. Even if flying high enough to be painted by radar, the typical ground control radar would not necessarily spot it.

An AWACS could spot it, but only if one was in the air and in the right place.

However, a plane flying at low altitude will use a lot more fuel than it would flying at a higher altitude. Hence it is likely to have MUCH less range than you would otherwise expect.

684 posted on 08/24/2004 5:59:32 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Possible. The pilot should have tried for an immediate airfield if he was still in control.


685 posted on 08/24/2004 5:59:35 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Larry Lucido

Ha, LMAO! Anyway, it was a cool pic.


686 posted on 08/24/2004 5:59:53 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: ChadGore

some event happened on both planes 24 minutes after take -off - somehow the other plane continued to fly for another two hours or so


687 posted on 08/24/2004 6:00:38 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: RightWhale

ping


688 posted on 08/24/2004 6:01:45 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: COEXERJ145

Oh sure!


689 posted on 08/24/2004 6:01:57 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about?)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
I just looked up the departure times on the Moscow's Airport Website:

Flight 1303: Departed 22:20

Flight 1047: Deaprted 21:25

That Washington Post is wrong.

690 posted on 08/24/2004 6:02:03 PM PDT by eabinga
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To: Smogger

bookmarking weird shiite!


691 posted on 08/24/2004 6:02:10 PM PDT by Tunehead54
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To: RightWhale

Sounds like a hijack situation at least in the second case.


692 posted on 08/24/2004 6:02:18 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: proudofthesouth

IMHO it would not hurt for the Swiftvet story to take a breather. It is starting to sound repetitive and needs to be on the back burner for a while.


693 posted on 08/24/2004 6:02:40 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: eabinga; ChadGore; RightWhale

That would account for the difference. Thank you.


694 posted on 08/24/2004 6:03:47 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: EternalHope
Re: (B-52's, a long time ago)

YOU ROCK !

695 posted on 08/24/2004 6:05:10 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: eabinga

so at 850 km/hr one flew 500 km and the other 1300 km before vanishing.


696 posted on 08/24/2004 6:07:40 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: RightWhale

Great question!! We got a long way into this thread before someone caught that!!


697 posted on 08/24/2004 6:08:52 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: BurbankKarl

It will be very interesting to see how Russia handles its Muslim terrorism problem. No kid gloves and worry about 'cultural feelings', I suspect.


698 posted on 08/24/2004 6:09:52 PM PDT by hershey
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To: ChadGore

Based on your data here, am I calculating that there was exactly a 24 minute difference on both planes between takeoffs and loss of signals?
What does the # 24 mean to the AQ and BL?


699 posted on 08/24/2004 6:10:51 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: RightWhale

PS- According to the maps shown, they didn't fly opposite directions.


700 posted on 08/24/2004 6:11:46 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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