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Stunt motorcyclists blamed in serious accident
cnn ^ | 8-25-04

Posted on 08/25/2004 3:19:16 PM PDT by PinnedAndRecessed

ST. LOUIS, Missouri (AP) -- Authorities are searching for a pack of highway stunt motorcyclists blamed for a wreck that seriously hurt five people in a sport utility vehicle.

A handful of motorcyclists were on Highway 364 Saturday when they changed lanes and cut off a Ford Explorer, forcing that vehicle to swerve to the right and hit a Chevrolet Suburban.

The Suburban tumbled down an embankment, ejecting most of its eight occupants. Five people in that vehicle were seriously injured; the other three sustained lesser harm. Only one was wearing a seat belt.

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By some accounts, a chase vehicle was filming the motorcyclists.

Witnesses said the motorcyclists were "riding wheelies, showing off, doing stunts," with another vehicle following them, Patrol Cpl. Jeff Myers said. He called the antics "total disregard for the safety of others."

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1 posted on 08/25/2004 3:19:16 PM PDT by PinnedAndRecessed
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To: PinnedAndRecessed
Really stupid. . .but of course; with two SUV's involved there can be no question as to whose fault this should be.

"Five people in that vehicle were seriously injured; the other three sustained lesser harm. Only one was wearing a seat belt":

Wondering which classification the one wearing the 'seat belt' falls into...

2 posted on 08/25/2004 3:23:11 PM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: PinnedAndRecessed; martin_fierro

Hooligan Ping . . .


3 posted on 08/25/2004 3:26:21 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: PinnedAndRecessed
"cut off a Ford Explorer, forcing that vehicle to swerve to the right"

I am a big bike fan but some fool cuts in front of me and it's either me and my family or the moron on the bike, the biker gets my bumper up his sphincter.
4 posted on 08/25/2004 3:27:01 PM PDT by GunnyHartman (Islam + Dubya = Waslam)
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To: GunnyHartman

good point, but isnt it true that if you do that you'll probably kill the guy on the bike and wind up in jail?


5 posted on 08/25/2004 3:29:40 PM PDT by KOZ. (i'm so bad i should be in detention)
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To: GunnyHartman
Being a bike lover... I hate these ding-dongs.

If these guys want to fly, go get a pilot's license.
6 posted on 08/25/2004 3:33:28 PM PDT by ricer1
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To: KOZ.
good point, but isnt it true that if you do that you'll probably kill the guy on the bike and wind up in jail?

Probably not. Most people do not consider bikers as people. We are viewed as a little crazy to begin with and if there is a problem, it is our fault. If you don't believe it, read the article again. It appears their behavior, i.e. wheelies, has nothing to do with the accident itself. Trust me, if you are on a motorcycle, the last thing you want to do is play chicken with a car. You loose.

7 posted on 08/25/2004 3:35:44 PM PDT by killjoy (Rockin' like Janet Reno)
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To: killjoy

just ask Bill "phantom car" Janklow...


8 posted on 08/25/2004 3:39:00 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece)
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To: PinnedAndRecessed

was Kerry nearby acting youthful and sporting...?

WHITE HOUSE SLAMS KERRY 'STUNT'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1199477/posts


9 posted on 08/25/2004 3:44:07 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the piece)
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To: killjoy
It appears their behavior, i.e. wheelies, has nothing to do with the accident itself.

You're kidding, right?

A handful of motorcyclists were on Highway 364 Saturday when they changed lanes and cut off a Ford Explorer, forcing that vehicle to swerve to the right and hit a Chevrolet Suburban.

10 posted on 08/25/2004 3:46:31 PM PDT by thecabal ("For all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!" --Aragorn)
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To: PinnedAndRecessed

"A handful of motorcyclists were on Highway 364 Saturday when they changed lanes and cut off a Ford Explorer, forcing that vehicle to swerve to the right and hit a Chevrolet Suburban."

You know, something about this story doesn`t make sense. I have never seen a motorcycle cut off a car/truck before. You would have to have bowling balls between your legs to do something that stupid.

If you are on a motorcycle, you know you will always lose a battle with a car, even more with a big SUV or a truck. You also tend to be more aware of your surroundings on a motorcycle than in a car/truck.

My bet is the idiot "stunt" bikers scared the crap out of the driver and he/she swerved away and hit the other vehicle. Then told police he/she was cutoff by the group.

Not saying the motorcyclist are guilt free, but something about this story isn`t adding up with me.


11 posted on 08/25/2004 3:49:51 PM PDT by Peace will be here soon (Congrats Springboks ! 2004 Tri-Nation champs.)
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To: thecabal
You're kidding, right?

I ment their behavior as it relates to stunt riding. Changing lanes has nothing to do whether you are on one wheel or two (or four).

12 posted on 08/25/2004 3:51:03 PM PDT by killjoy (Rockin' like Janet Reno)
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To: Peace will be here soon
My bet is the idiot "stunt" bikers scared the crap out of the driver and he/she swerved away and hit the other vehicle. Then told police he/she was cutoff by the group.

Agree 100%. A group of us got stopped by Florida Highway Patrol a few months ago for speeding. The officer (read a**hole) stated that the reason he was giving us speeding tickets was in large part because we 'terrorize old people'.

13 posted on 08/25/2004 3:55:03 PM PDT by killjoy (Rockin' like Janet Reno)
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14 posted on 08/25/2004 3:59:46 PM PDT by martin_fierro (_____oooo_( )_oooo_____)
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To: killjoy

Yeah but you guys play chicken with cars all the time. Just don't try stunts in front of N.J. Acura TLs; it might be me.


15 posted on 08/25/2004 4:14:51 PM PDT by RossA
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To: PinnedAndRecessed
These guys are from St Louis:
(click on image)


16 posted on 08/25/2004 4:15:26 PM PDT by Sender (I didn't leave cookays. I left him cheeese.)
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To: RossA

My last example was in Italy - fairly recently. I was driving at curising speed on the Autostrade (about 130 kms/hr) in the left hand lane and a motorcycle whizzed by me on the left - in the 18" or so between my car and the guard rail. Now his friend, stuck behind me, has to pull the same idiotic stunt or lose "prestige." I was watching him closely and, as he tried it, I steered 6" to the left - just to see the look on his face. What a panic! I'll bet his pants were yellow as he let him by.


17 posted on 08/25/2004 4:19:11 PM PDT by RossA
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To: RossA
I was watching him closely and, as he tried it, I steered 6" to the left - just to see the look on his face

Why not just steer 6" to the right and let him go by? Nothing like attempting murder just to have some fun...

18 posted on 08/25/2004 4:21:58 PM PDT by killjoy (Rockin' like Janet Reno)
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To: martin_fierro
Sometimes, authorities said, packs of 10 or 15 sport motorcyclists have raced on Phoenix-area highways, terrifying other motorists. Often, one officer lamented, "their kick is to find cops, race by them, give them the middle finger salute or wave at the officer. They are out of sight in the blink of an eye."

And I'm happy to report, their first mistake hopefully and usually is their last.

oh, and a Brain Bucket isn't neccessary. First requirement is "A Brain".

Yesterday on I-95, in a pretty heavy downpour, there was this bozo on a dirtbike, geared up with a kevlar suit & boots doing 80 with his hand on his face shielding him from the rain pain because he had kevlar, but no helmet. 10 miles down the road, he's 3 feet behind a tractor trailer @65mph again hiding from the rain. He finally pulled over under a bridge. I thought about pulling up behind him, gettin' out an smackin' him in the head for being a jerk, but I was in my pickemup and didn't want to ruin a good day.

Besides, never attack someone wearing armour. Especially for no reason except self-gratification.

19 posted on 08/25/2004 4:30:37 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1 (Kerry couldn't have gone to Sears in Cambodia Christmas day! They were closed!)
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To: RossA

So to counter-act his stupidity you thought it was your job to invoke your stupidity. Sounds resonable to me. /sarcasm


20 posted on 08/25/2004 4:32:23 PM PDT by scab4faa (Save Private Hamster! F'ing Kerry.)
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To: scab4faa
So to counter-act his stupidity you thought it was your job to invoke your stupidity. Sounds resonable to me.

He is from New Jersey...

21 posted on 08/25/2004 4:40:22 PM PDT by killjoy (Rockin' like Janet Reno)
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To: martin_fierro

Oh, those wacky Berlin policemen.


22 posted on 08/25/2004 4:44:51 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Peace will be here soon

Here in NE Ohio we have a group of biker who go by the name of " The Star Boyz" their trademark is to ride in groups of 10-15 bikes during rush hour traffic on the dotted line doing wheelies. They have caused more than one accident as the result of some driver changing lanes and not seeing the idiots


23 posted on 08/25/2004 4:47:16 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: PinnedAndRecessed

And people wonder why bikers hate squids?


24 posted on 08/25/2004 4:48:44 PM PDT by Melas
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To: killjoy

Please don't call squids bikers. It's just wrong.


25 posted on 08/25/2004 4:49:55 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Peace will be here soon

Squids cut cars off all the time. Mere words can't describe the morons who're caught up in this phenomenon.


26 posted on 08/25/2004 4:51:29 PM PDT by Melas
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To: killjoy

"Why not just steer 6" to the right and let him go by? Nothing like attempting murder just to have some fun..."

No way, not a chance. If the idiot on the motorcycle wants to pass somebody in the breakdown lane, they get whatever's coming to them. If the car is in it's lane, left side of it or not, it's high time the cyclist wises up or he's a skidmark.


27 posted on 08/25/2004 4:54:04 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Procrastinate later)
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To: Melas

OK, I'll bite... whatza squid?


28 posted on 08/25/2004 4:54:30 PM PDT by laker_dad
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To: laker_dad
Squids are the idiots riding sport bikes. The type of bike where you're leaned over with most of your weight on your wrists, you're crotch is up against the gas tank, and you feet are tucked up under your ass. In short, you look like you're humping a football.

Watch Biker Boyz for a quick primer on squid behavior.

29 posted on 08/25/2004 4:58:40 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Peace will be here soon
I read a report (sorry forget where) on this incident. Apparently they were doing this stunt riding and had a 'chase car' behind them filming all their antics. The article mentioned that the chase car was the one that actually clipped the SUV as the group cut across in front of it.

If I find it, I'll post here.

Ah here it is

"He said someone in a chase vehicle was apparently filming the actions of the motorcyclists and clipped the Explorer, causing it to collide with his parents' car."

"Police say they have not confirmed that there was a chase car filming motorcycle riders."

30 posted on 08/25/2004 4:59:02 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: Melas
Squids are the idiots riding sport bikes. The type of bike where you're leaned over with most of your weight on your wrists, you're crotch is up against the gas tank, and you feet are tucked up under your ass. In short, you look like you're humping a football.

So everyone riding a sportbike is an idiot? Nice of you to make blanket statements insulting people you know nothing about.

31 posted on 08/25/2004 5:03:22 PM PDT by killjoy (Rockin' like Janet Reno)
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To: killjoy
So everyone riding a sportbike is an idiot? Nice of you to make blanket statements insulting people you know nothing about.

Not all of them, but the vast majority of them. I have little use for squids or squid bikes.

32 posted on 08/25/2004 5:06:03 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

Thanks. Hadn't heard the name before. Have seen them hot dogging on the freeway, though. A pack of them passed between me and the car I was passing, some of them went around me on the shoulder. I was doing 80 at the time, just after midnight, and I never saw them coming. They were gone in seconds, and the last one (obviously losing the race) almost dumped it on the next curve.


33 posted on 08/25/2004 5:06:07 PM PDT by laker_dad
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To: Melas
Not all of them, but the vast majority of them. I have little use for squids or squid bikes.

Yawn....

34 posted on 08/25/2004 5:08:39 PM PDT by killjoy (Rockin' like Janet Reno)
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>>The officer (read a**hole) stated that the reason he was giving us speeding tickets was in large part because we 'terrorize old people'.<<

Did you ask for evidence ?


35 posted on 08/25/2004 5:08:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Don't be so open minded that Your Brains Fall Out--Respect shouldn't be given, It Must Be Earned)
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To: laker_dad
They're all over the DFW metroplex. One of the tell-tale signs of a squid is that they hate bikers with a passion. I was coming home one night when a group of about 5 started buzzing me and pulling back to buzz me again, except a little closer every time.

I pulled over and sure enough they started back my way, no doubt delighted they'd find a lone biker. They got close enough to see that I was holding a Sig in my hand and thought better of it.

Pretty typical behavior from the squid set. Terrorizing motorists and others seems to be their bag.

36 posted on 08/25/2004 5:10:11 PM PDT by Melas
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To: B4Ranch
Did you ask for evidence ?

The group of us had pulled over when we saw him with his lights on and he wrote us all up for speeding. He said he paced us doing 74 in a 55 and wrote us up for that. Legally he can not write a ticket to more than one vehicle at a time but it wouldn't be worth trying to fight it. Taking it to the clerk of the court, pleading no contest and have it dismissed for a small fee is much easier.

We did joke about making up shirts with 'official terrorist' on it after he gave us all his little speach. Funny that we terrorize old people but he fails to realize how much they terrorize us.

37 posted on 08/25/2004 5:16:15 PM PDT by killjoy (Real terrorists wear suits)
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To: Melas
They're all over the DFW metroplex. One of the tell-tale signs of a squid is that they hate bikers with a passion. I was coming home one night when a group of about 5 started buzzing me and pulling back to buzz me again, except a little closer every time.

I pulled over and sure enough they started back my way, no doubt delighted they'd find a lone biker. They got close enough to see that I was holding a Sig in my hand and thought better of it.

You have watched way too many movies....

38 posted on 08/25/2004 5:19:01 PM PDT by killjoy (Real terrorists wear suits)
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To: Sender
Those guys are girly men.....now this boy can ride

http://www.christianpfeiffer.com/html/en/download.html#

big balls....really big

39 posted on 08/25/2004 5:22:34 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: Melas

These guys were racing, and I was just in their way. If they had come by just a couple of seconds later, I might have bounced a couple of them on their asses with my truck. The closing speed was amazing.


40 posted on 08/25/2004 5:22:41 PM PDT by laker_dad
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To: killjoy

Uh...yeah...right....whatever...


41 posted on 08/25/2004 5:26:42 PM PDT by Melas
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To: laker_dad

Oh they're amazingly fast. I don't think the average joe/jane realizes just how much speed is available for cheap in the motorcycle world. $15,000 with very minor mods to defeat electronic limiters will give you speeds over 200mph. It's insane.


42 posted on 08/25/2004 5:28:01 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas
Uh...yeah...right....whatever...

You are the one suggesting people should watch 'Biker Boyz' as a primer on the behavior of people who ride sportbikes and then you expect to be taken seriously?

43 posted on 08/25/2004 5:30:53 PM PDT by killjoy (Real terrorists wear suits)
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To: killjoy
You are the one suggesting people should watch 'Biker Boyz' as a primer on the behavior of people who ride sportbikes and then you expect to be taken seriously?

I was being generous. Biker Boyz went out of its way to make squids look good. The reality is that squids are much more reckless than depicted in the movie. The movie always had them drag racing away from the rest of civilization. The reality is that packs of squids fly down highways leaning in and out of corners at insane speeds with absolutely no regard for anyone else.

44 posted on 08/25/2004 5:35:26 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas
$15,000 with very minor mods to defeat electronic limiters will give you speeds over 200mph. It's insane.

Care to name a stock bike that can do over 200mph? Even a hayabusa without a limiter has a hard time getting into the mid 190s.

45 posted on 08/25/2004 5:36:20 PM PDT by killjoy (Real terrorists wear suits)
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To: killjoy

Maybe I'm just ornery but I would had a lawyer bring him up on personal defamation charges. Let him see what it's like to be the defendant who has to pay costs.


46 posted on 08/25/2004 5:37:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Don't be so open minded that Your Brains Fall Out--Respect shouldn't be given, It Must Be Earned)
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To: Melas
The reality is that squids are much more reckless than depicted in the movie. The movie always had them drag racing away from the rest of civilization.

Yes, like taking a blackbird racing on a dirt road? Laugh.

The reality is that packs of squids fly down highways leaning in and out of corners at insane speeds with absolutely no regard for anyone else.

What is wrong with taking twisties fast? Jealous because you can't do it without scraping half your bike away?

47 posted on 08/25/2004 5:39:59 PM PDT by killjoy (Real terrorists wear suits)
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To: Melas

In all fairness, I've seen plenty of people on four wheels drive at break-neck speeds with little or no regard for anyone else on the road. Shoot, I had a guy in a Lincoln LS play road warrior the other day. I had to brake hard to avoid contact with this guy who cut me off coming into my lane, so I beeped my horn at him. Since I had the temerity of signalling my horn at him, obviously I deserve the bird and to be run off the road. Do I paint all automobile drivers as reckless? No, of course not. Just because someone's wearing leather, a bandana, and a hog doesn't exempt them from stupidity, either. As an aside, I didn't see Biker Boys. The trailer showed them racing street bikes on gravel. LOL It's a rum old world when you meet the nicest people on a Harley and the Honda riders are the hooligans. ;)


48 posted on 08/25/2004 6:15:10 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi!)
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To: killjoy
What is wrong with taking twisties fast? Jealous because you can't do it without scraping half your bike away?

We're degrading into total stupidity now. Tell you what, I'll give you credit that if you wanted a Harley, you would buy one, because I know damned well that if I wanted a squid bike, I could easily afford one.

49 posted on 08/25/2004 6:19:12 PM PDT by Melas
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To: RossA

ROFL


50 posted on 08/25/2004 6:20:04 PM PDT by Begin (RIP RWR 1911-2004)
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