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'Exporting America: Why Corporate Greed Is Shipping American Jobs Overseas' by CNN's Lou Dobbs
tallahassee.com ^ | Sun, Aug. 22, 2004 | Cecil Johnson

Posted on 09/08/2004 3:36:00 PM PDT by Destro

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To: Modok

Dobbs can't be a Socialist because Free trade = Marxisim.


21 posted on 09/08/2004 4:28:55 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Modok

Actually he isnt Dobbs is a paleo-con much inline with Pat Buchanen.


22 posted on 09/08/2004 4:29:01 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Nice50BMG
The US talent pool does not exist at a reasonable cost for a small business.

No, no no!!! It's all GREED on the part of employers, don't you understand that??? Workers are NEVER greedy! ;^)

23 posted on 09/08/2004 4:31:58 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, and victory.)
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To: Destro
But at some point we have to ask, what will we export? At what will Americans work?

Apparently only in health care ---- even providing free health to foreign citizens who don't wish to build up their own health care systems, and education --- we still have to provide kids 12 years or more education with free lunch programs, and the military --- Americans go go off to do the dying that other people don't wish to do and the American taxpayers will somehow have to come up with the money to pay for all this but have no jobs that bring in money.

24 posted on 09/08/2004 4:45:28 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Joe Hadenuf

So Ok we should keep jobs that went to indians anyways. Fine, nonody will argue the fact that outsourcing sucks, but its a two way street. Protectionism at home will invaritably result in protectionism against us. Which means companies like Toyota and Honda wont build plants or other companies wont invest here because of rules setup to punish America for protectionism.


25 posted on 09/08/2004 4:46:46 PM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: Destro

Bump for later.


26 posted on 09/08/2004 4:47:49 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Willie Green

Well --- at some point we're going to have to outsource taxes. Without manufacturing jobs, we will produce nothing to export --- Americans will have to import just about everything they buy. All the health care and education and social work jobs (service industry) are tax money users unlike manufacturing which are tax money producers. Who will pay the taxes that supports health care, education, welfare industry, and the military?


27 posted on 09/08/2004 4:49:05 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Who will pay the taxes that supports health care, education, welfare industry, and the military?

The Administration apparently isn't concerned about that.
As long as the transnational corporations can operate in a tax-free global environment, the rest of us, including our government institutions, can eat dirt.

28 posted on 09/08/2004 4:59:48 PM PDT by Willie Green (Go Alan Go!!!)
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To: FITZ; Willie Green; A. Pole
FITZ: Well --- at some point we're going to have to outsource taxes.

FITZ! Do you read history? Is that not what happened to the Athenian Delian league? When Athen's allies were forced to pay tribute? Or to the Roman republic where slave labor made Romans unemployable creating the imperial welfare state that needed tribute to live?

We have shown that as a people we can not spend less on ourselves nor do we have the ability to raise revenue to the level of spending our politicans insist we need (and we confirm by their election).

In our lifetime we may be seeing the world pay America a "protection tax" collected by our Marines, whether they like it or not.

29 posted on 09/08/2004 5:02:23 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

Doesnt Dobbs tout these same company's in his $$$ private newsletter?

I tuned him in on my XM radio last night, and it was the same schpiel, over and over.

Would he rather we be Germany with 32 hour work weeks, 20 percent unemployment?


30 posted on 09/08/2004 5:05:21 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (.)
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To: Destro

And yet, if I had invested in "Dobb's Portfolio" of companies he hates for outsourcing, my 401(K) would be looking mighty fine and my dreams retirement fulfilled. Afterall, I'm not dumb enough to believe 70 million workers can be supported through the labor of 35 million.
Trade off? My generation.
Keep outsourcing.


31 posted on 09/08/2004 5:08:08 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: elbucko
We're rapidly turning into a society of teachers, lawyers, salesmen, and security guards -- fields you can't offshore. Notice something about those professions: none of them have anything directly do with the production of any sort of exportable goods. And you've hit the nail on the head. It's already begun. And the teachers in the NEA will do everything they can to keep cranking out more teachers to fill their union rolls. Because when you're done with a typical liberal arts college in the US, there's nothing that you can use for anything else other than being a teacher, a lawyer, or some non-descript bureaucrat. There are not enough information-age educators teaching the skills necessary. And to the question about who manufactures goods? Who cares? America has always been an invention culture, much more than a manufacturing culture. Our special economic weapon is creativity. That's why we created the "information age" and so many other radical changes in the economic superstructure of global commerce.
32 posted on 09/08/2004 5:08:09 PM PDT by Nice50BMG (they say the the scope adds 10 pounds.)
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To: Nice50BMG

you are making Dobbs point - what American can live on that wage?


33 posted on 09/08/2004 5:08:45 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Destro

Gee, Lou, maybe we'll all be investment class, local suppliers, and then creative suppliers.
Small minds have small visions, I guess.


34 posted on 09/08/2004 5:09:56 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: Nice50BMG

yes, but who invents? lawyers? public school teachers?

engineers invent, and the field is collapsing, so which americans will be around to invent? none.

invention will come from the places where engineers are employed, and investments in new technolog are being made - and that's not in the US anymore.


35 posted on 09/08/2004 5:10:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Destro

And the jobs that were exported to the U.S. from abroad? Send em back. Get on it. Fart n start. ASAP? Ha


36 posted on 09/08/2004 5:13:15 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Campion

A top mechanic at a Mercedes dealer, makes $80K a year.

no one in the US is going to get a master's degree in engineering to make $40K/yr. no one.

all of my techie friends - are piling their kids into law schools.


37 posted on 09/08/2004 5:14:23 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
yes, but who invents? lawyers? public school teachers? engineers invent, and the field is collapsing, so which americans will be around to invent? none. invention will come from the places where engineers are employed, and investments in new technolog are being made - and that's not in the US anymore. Wrong. Invention comes from inventors. Engineers figure out "how" not "what".
38 posted on 09/08/2004 5:16:01 PM PDT by Nice50BMG (they say the the scope adds 10 pounds.)
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To: oceanview

Engineers aren't the only inventors - just the most richly rewarded ones.
Google John Osher.
An ex-plumber who created three companies.


39 posted on 09/08/2004 5:17:21 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Zealous Troll Hunter - and you know who you are - you've been warned.)
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To: Nice50BMG

so name some technological innovations made by lawyers, or real estate agents?


40 posted on 09/08/2004 5:17:24 PM PDT by oceanview
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