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1 posted on 09/08/2004 4:39:19 PM PDT by Howlin
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WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN!

They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are rigth of center...like the ones they just showed.

Can we get a copy of those memos?

107 posted on 09/08/2004 5:19:00 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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This is a crock!

Don't we have many brave soldiers in Iraq right now that are in the National Guard?

What a disservice to these outstanding people.

When will 60 minutes cover Kerry's UN American activities?


112 posted on 09/08/2004 5:19:42 PM PDT by TheLion
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This even exceeded my expectations. Rather is Biased beyond anything I've ever seen.

It's hysterical. The number 1 book in the Country never got any attention. Rather only mentioned it to discredit it.

This is really something else.

Rather is my least favorite person on the planet.


121 posted on 09/08/2004 5:21:08 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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If, and I mean if, these memos are genuine, then this is a very big deal.

Interesting--CBS didn't emphasize the Barnes interview--but focused on the found documents.

This is a paper trail that might have legs.


124 posted on 09/08/2004 5:22:13 PM PDT by pacocat
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Ben Barnes is a crook. Read Texas history. Enough said.


126 posted on 09/08/2004 5:22:50 PM PDT by texaslil
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http://www.gop.com/RNCResearch/Read.aspx?ID=4625

Who is Ben Barnes

138 posted on 09/08/2004 5:24:57 PM PDT by AZamericonnie (I will defend to your death my right to my opinion!)
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Barnes is a fraud. Greg Knap on KLIF pointed that out today...he also interviewed Will Campenni who flew with Bush.

I am doing a write up of that and will post soon.

AS FAR AS BARNES....

Earlier today...Hannity said that Barnes swore under oath in 1999 that he did not help Bush get into the Guard.

ALSO...It seems that in the past...Barnes has claimed that he helped Bush get into the Guard when he was LT Gov.

The radio made the point that Bush went into the Guard in 68......Barnes was not Lt. Gov until 1969.
(digging up confirmation on that)

The liberal college prof that they showed...has actually done work with the DNC and is friends with Hill Clinton.

I thought it desperate that 60 minutes would say...they had an expert look at the supposed documents to see if a guy really wrote them. THEY WERE TYPED DOCUMENTS.

They guys who they said had the documents...has come out in the past and admitted they were not real. He is dead not...so Rather thought...why not try it again.


148 posted on 09/08/2004 5:27:11 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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Ben Barnes, who represented Comanche County in the legislature in the 1960s while still in his twenties, says that his mentor, the late John B. Connally, Jr., tried to persuade him to switch parties in 1973, when Connally made the bolt. Barnes said that he told Connally he could not do so because he disbelieved in the principles of the Republican Party and was a liberal Democrat at heart.


153 posted on 09/08/2004 5:28:42 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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Do they disclose for all to see that barnes is a kerry contributor/supporter/asp licker?


158 posted on 09/08/2004 5:29:50 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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I was a Republican living in Houston, there were about 36 of us,in 1968. I was in the Bushes precinct and went to meetings in an old firestation on Westheimer.

GHW Bush was a Republican congressman. Trust me--he had no power in Democrat-controlled Texas. I knew who he and Barbara were but I wasn't overly impressed with their "importance."

Of course, I was young and irresponsible--but saw fit to attend precinct meetings.

171 posted on 09/08/2004 5:33:35 PM PDT by lonestar (Me, too!--Weinie)
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I didn't have to see this interview to know that it would be about two lifelong TX Democrats swapping stories about how evil some Republican officeholder is.


173 posted on 09/08/2004 5:33:48 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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I graduated from college in 1971. After graduation from school, if you were male and medically fit you had three choices.

1. Enlist in the branch of service of your choice.

2. Stand for the draft.

3 If you were wealthy and/or had the proper connections you could enter the Guard. Those were the facts of life.

193 posted on 09/08/2004 5:42:52 PM PDT by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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Relax folks. This NG stuff and the upcoming Kitty Kelley stuff is going nowhere. I think there is alot of stuff that is coming up on Kerry and the MSM had to fire their last topedo before Kerry implodes.

And as much as I hate to say this, next week at this time (probably Monday or Tuesday) all of this coverage will probably be blown away by 24 hour coverage of Hurricane Ivan as it looks like it's going to hit somewhere in the Gulf. The media went ape over a Cat 2 storm in Florence they will probably be having orgasms in covering a Cat 4 storm in Ivan if it stays that strong.


199 posted on 09/08/2004 5:45:29 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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I am going to have to get new glasses. Every time I see his name, I think it reads Ben Raines and you William Johnstone fans will know the person I am talking about.


204 posted on 09/08/2004 5:46:59 PM PDT by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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Hahahahahahah. They aren't showing the program in my area because they are showing a 50 year anniversary show for the local station. BWAHahahahahah!!


229 posted on 09/08/2004 6:01:52 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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E-Mail this story AND links to the media today.

John Kerry directly contributed to the lies of the anti war movement AND caused deaths and injuries
to US Military serving in Vietnam AND
directly caused deaths from injuries at home AND countless suicides because of his false testimony.

John Kerry is not fit to be elected dog catcher let alone President of the United States.
ANYONE who votes for Kerry AFTER knowing this data
is guilty of covering up John Kerry's war crimes!


John Kerry, director of the Vietnam Veterans against the War,
testified before special session the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
April 22, 1971

KERRY GAVE TESTIMONY BASED UPON FALSE INFORMATION
THAT KERRY KNEW AHEAD OF TIME TO BE FALSE!




September 6, 2004 -- **BREAKING** In Yesterday's Lies: Steve Pitkin and the Winter Soldiers, Scott Swett tells the story of a former VVAW member and participant in the Winter Soldier Investigation who states that John Kerry and others pressured him to give false testimony about American atrocities in Vietnam. After more than 33 years, Pitkin is the first Winter Soldier "witness" to file a legal affadavit regarding that event...

My name is Steve Pitkin, age 20, from Baltimore. I served with the 9th Division from May of '69 until I was airvaced in July of '69. I'll testify about the beating of civilians and enemy personnel, destruction of villages, indiscriminate use of artillery, the general racism and the attitude of the American GI toward the Vietnamese. I will also talk about some of the problems of the GIs toward one another and the hassle with officers.

-- Steve Pitkin, Winter Soldier Investigation, February 1, 1971.


E-Mail and/or fax these url's to EVERYONE ASAP! Kerry MUST be exposed NOW!
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Steve Pitkin WSI video clips -- February 1, 1971 (4:16, 1.6MB)


http://www.wintersoldier.com/video/pitkin2.wmv

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245 posted on 09/08/2004 6:10:34 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOUR YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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I didn't see the interview.

Can anyone answer these questions?

1. Did this guy say he got Bush into the NG while he was Lt. Gov?

2. Is there proof he was Lt/ Gov at the time, and was this before Bush actually got in? B


I ask because I've read he claims he did this as Lt. Gov., but that was in 69, while Bush got in in 68.

Any of your overall impressions of the interview and the charges made welcomed. Sorry if this is ground already covered, I don't have time to check all the posts on this subkect tonight. Thanks!


273 posted on 09/08/2004 6:22:27 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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I went to church (Wed eve church) so I missed it. If I was home, I would've watched the Hawaii detective show.


285 posted on 09/08/2004 6:30:37 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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GOOD LORD! Now I remember why we blocked CBS from our Direct TV. Dan Rather on the news did nothing but attack. Bush. The first 20 minutes were nothing but attacks. Except for a short update on how Clinton is pulling through beyond everyones expectations.

Attack Stories were:
• Bush's National Guard record. (first story)
• Campaign trail shots of Kerry trashing Bush.
• Hurricane damage in FL, Yes he attacked Bush on it to. He's not doing enough, making the same mistakes his Father made during Andrew with aid coming to slow, showed one angry woman yelling, "where's the calvary".
• 1000 dead in Iraq, They showed the same anti-war Mother they always drag out who's Son has been killed, and she wore a shirt saying, "President Bush killed my Son".

That's all I could take. Back to FNC.


308 posted on 09/08/2004 6:45:54 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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Check out this on the MRC if you've not done so already.

60 Minutes Tonight to Air 4th Anti-Bush Hit Job So Far This Year

328 posted on 09/08/2004 6:59:59 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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