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CBS' “new” Bush guard memos a hoax (Update w/ conclusive proof of forgeries!)
ChronicallyBiased - keeping tabs on the Houston Chronicle ^ | 9/9

Posted on 09/09/2004 3:47:33 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist

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To: Izzy Dunne
You know what would be funny?

If all FReepers switched to your tagline next April 1st - just for the hell of it.

What we need is a self-FReep to "encourage" it.

241 posted on 09/09/2004 10:01:38 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: GOPcapitalist
It is NOT possible, however, to perfectly center three consecutive lines in block succession and have them match precisely with a computer-generated version of the same.

Try drawing a very slight, erasable pencil line down the center of the page. Then, using the the paper release lever, manually shift the paper to line up with the type guide.

Perfect? No. But as close to perfect as you can measure on a .pdf file posted on the Internet.

your post appears to evidence that you've never worked very much in the way of reading comprehension.

Please keep in mind, I'm on your side in this.

242 posted on 09/09/2004 10:22:38 PM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao
Try drawing a very slight, erasable pencil line down the center of the page. Then, using the the paper release lever, manually shift the paper to line up with the type guide.

As I said, you're free to give it a try and post your results here. But I'm also warning you right now to save you the time that it simply isn't gonna work. If you're good you might be able to come kinda sorta close to getting something that is centered in its own right but it won't match up to what a word processor produces or anything even close.

But as close to perfect as you can measure on a .pdf file posted on the Internet.

Not really. Those pdf's were posted in very high resolution - high enough to pass as first generation photocopies of the ones in CBS' possession. They are more than sufficient enough to demonstrate that the centering was electronic. Again, if you doubt me go ahead and try your typewriter experiment and post the results.

243 posted on 09/09/2004 10:29:02 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: GOPcapitalist

It looks like it could almost be thought of as a "fingerprint."


244 posted on 09/09/2004 10:31:38 PM PDT by RobRoy (You only "know" what you experience. Everything else is mere belief.)
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To: GOPcapitalist

I also noticed that most of the dots on the paper are exactly the same...like someone cloned the same dot all over....


245 posted on 09/09/2004 10:36:50 PM PDT by sonserae
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To: Excuse_Me

Yes. And how many people had them?

The FIRST pocket calculator in San Antonio, Texas was brought in my HS physics class in my junior year (1973).

Now, you're gonna claim that a reserve Lt Col fighter pilot at a reserve air base in Houston was using his slide rule on a hot Texas afternoon to calculate the center points for a proportionally spaced typewriter font to center the heading on three lines of an internal memo that nobody was gonna read?

When that fighter pilot couldn't type?


246 posted on 09/09/2004 10:39:14 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: GOPcapitalist

How far off do I have to be to fail? How far off is the best you've done on a typewriter? Are we talking about a millimeter, or a tenth of a millimeter, or a hundreth of a millimeter?

What is the standard?


247 posted on 09/09/2004 10:41:57 PM PDT by kevao
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To: kevao
Do that on proportionally spaced type.

by hand.

Now, center the three lines, when your typewriter indents manually.

Now, retype those lines in the right pitch between letters ... since type-setting quality typewriters weren't used by ANY other legitimate letters or documents at ANY time by the officers at that base..

When his wife says that the supposed writer can't type.
248 posted on 09/09/2004 10:43:19 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: printhead
Sweet. I don't post as I'm working much, but so nice to be part of this community. Great people, smart people with the right values.
249 posted on 09/09/2004 10:45:37 PM PDT by daguberment (Mexifornia, a state of becoming.)
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To: kevao

1/4 the thickness of the width of the letter: match the half-width vertical strip of the number "1".

That's the resolution I can identify when the "old" document is superimposed on a modern word-processed document using the yet-to-be-invented-font that was suppsoed typed in the 1970-'s.

And, by the way, type me up a "'" too while you're at it.


250 posted on 09/09/2004 10:45:58 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: nutmeg

bttt


251 posted on 09/09/2004 10:46:21 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: GOPcapitalist
You are right on the mark!

Dan Rather and CBS have few options to retain any sort of credibility. They need to produce the "original" documents for independent, expert verification. The need to name their "experts" who provided the stamp of approval over the six weeks they were working on the story.

If the documents are indeed a fraud, then Rather and CBS have another obligation. Is is customary for a report to "protect" a source if naming the source might cause some potential harm. I don't see how this could be the case. An unnamed source is unjustified, even if the documents are credible. However, if the source provides fraudulent information or lies about the information in the story, the reporter is under no obligation to protect the source. Rather and CBS should name the source as soon as the documents are proved, by the preponderance of the evidence, to be fakes.

Dan Rather - WHO GAVE YOU THESE FORGED DOCUMENTS? WHO PLANTED THIS FAKE STORY?

252 posted on 09/09/2004 10:55:21 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: Ronin
I bet there will be a mea culpa by this time next week. CBS will give it time to go away, but there is little chance of that. They will then claim they were "duped." They already have claimed they used "due diligence" in vetting the documents, but will not give the names of the so-called experts. When they use those terms, it shows that they are already hunkering down for the long haul.
253 posted on 09/09/2004 11:01:41 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: kevao
How far off do I have to be to fail?

Try it out and we'll see. Right now I'm betting that you can't match the overlap found on that image. I doubt that all but the most skilled typist using precise rulers and the sort could come closer than about 2 millimeters or maybe just under, and even then the alignment and spacing would still be off producing no match.

Put another way, I'd expect you to produce something that, if you set it directly on top of either the MS word version or the forgery, you could still easily make out what the address was.

254 posted on 09/09/2004 11:10:32 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: capitan_refugio
The real reason, IMO, that they won't produce the originals is that they got it from the DNC or the Kerry camp or Barnes or some other agent in the Democratic Party. If they reveal the source they have a double embarrassment - first using forged documents, second showing clear favoritism to a political campaign. They also extend their shame onto Kerry and thereby hurt him in the polls, which they don't want to do. Rather will destroy his own before he'll let the Democrats go down.

But it may be out of his control already. The American Spectator just reported from an unnamed DNC source saying that Kerry provided the documents to CBS.

255 posted on 09/09/2004 11:14:06 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist ("Can Lincoln expect to subjugate a people thus resolved? No!" - Sam Houston, 3/1863)
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To: GOPcapitalist

I imagine by Monday that Bush will have a 20% lead in the polls, and Lurch and Danny will be passed out in a bar somewhere.


256 posted on 09/09/2004 11:20:59 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (CBS Lied, Dan Rather Is Fried.)
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To: GOPcapitalist

That is entirely possible. I would have guessed it came from Begala's operation. Six weeks ago (when CBS claims they received the docs) he was still "independent" of the sKerry campaign. Hate for Republicans runs deep in his veins.


257 posted on 09/09/2004 11:30:14 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: RightField

"Sorry to be so long-winded."

You weren't long winded at all...that was very interesting. {:^)


258 posted on 09/09/2004 11:57:27 PM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: capitan_refugio

That's exactly right. In fact, not disclosing the source here will encourage further fraud--the source will know there are no consequences.


259 posted on 09/10/2004 12:09:42 AM PDT by CalRepublican
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To: CalRepublican

Another "right-minded" FReeper in California! I love it. I don't think I have posted to you before, have I? Welcome.


260 posted on 09/10/2004 12:30:29 AM PDT by capitan_refugio
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