[ambrose]

Another sign pointing to forgery... if these came from a file, there should be hole punches at the top or at the side.

[Terp]

Another sign pointing to forgery... if these came from a file, there should be hole punches at the top or at the side.

All my military records were hole punched. And most if not all paperwork that was worth keeping in a file had the same.

[Agrarian]

Actually a memo for record or memo to file is a personal, quasi-official memo that an officer writes for himself and keeps track of himself. The specific purpose is to CYA, when one's actions might later be questioned. They detail facts, conversations, and actions that one wants to be able to have precisely recorded, but where there is no reason to to file an official piece of paperwork.

They wouldn't be hole-punched, because they aren't part of any official military record.

Same point applies to the claims that these aren't authentic because they aren't on letterhead. The memos for record/file wouldn't necessarily be on letterhead. I never did any of mine on letterhead. The exception is the memo that was purportedly sent to Bush, ordering him to report for a physical. That one you would reasonably expect to be on letterhead (although I don't know what the Texas ANG did in that regard -- do we have other, official memos from that time period that are on letterhead?) Also, one would expect that one (since it is an order) to have been filed "officially." Again, though, I don't know how complete the Texas ANG record-keeping is.

[Brownie74]

Another sign pointing to forgery... if these came from a file, there should be hole punches at the top or at the side.

You're right. I just pulled out a copy of my DD-214 (USAF 1961) and you can clearly see where 2 holes had been punched in it at the top. You can also see marks along the left margin where it looked like it had been placed in a clamp binder of some kind.

All of my military records were destroyed in the St. Louis fire of 1973 so that old DD-214 is the only thing I have left.

There were also 5 circles drawn around certain points of interest like "Character Of Service", "Date Of Entry", etc.

There is also a couple of check marks on the document. These circles and checks were placed on the DD-214 BEFORE it was reproduced.

I thought you might find that interesting.

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[Brownie74]

Something else for you to ponder. The Air Force used a different dating system than the CBS documents. For instance:

I entered the Air Force on X May XX. I was discharged on X May XX. My DOB was XX Mar XX. I think you see the difference.

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