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To: KiloLima; 2banana

Sorry if I'm sounding grouchy - I'm just tired of people using the phrase "The Indians", as if we were all the same, and that what applies to one automatically applies to the other... Nothing is ever that simple.

By the way, 2banana? If you ever get a chance, take a look at the Constitution of the Iroqouis Confederacy - it's well over 500 years old (pre-contact) and is an incredible system - especially for a bunch of stone-agers... ;0)


34 posted on 09/21/2004 4:11:34 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (How do you ask a hamster to be the last hamster to die for a mistake?)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

You don't sound grouchy. I was just teasing you about the "blanket statement."

I'm all for the truth. See my previous posts.


36 posted on 09/21/2004 4:30:09 PM PDT by KiloLima ("...I have seen the character of a great nation: decent, and idealistic and strong." - GWB, 9-2-04)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

"If you ever get a chance, take a look at the Constitution of the Iroqouis Confederacy - it's well over 500 years old (pre-contact) and is an incredible system - especially for a bunch of stone-agers"

I don't doubt that at all. :)

A bunch of stone-agers... Riiighttt....;)

Hmmm, well put a few whites in the middle of the forest in a survival situation, and put one Lipan Apache in the middle of the forest. No freaking contest as to who would win. :)


42 posted on 09/21/2004 5:54:53 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Oh, by the way -- thanks for the Internet, Al!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Sorry if I'm sounding grouchy - I'm just tired of people using the phrase "The Indians", as if we were all the same, and that what applies to one automatically applies to the other... Nothing is ever that simple.

Yeah, it sucks. It is as bad as taking the widely varied tribal heritages of those of European ancestry and lumping them under "white".

In both instances, there were numerous distinct cultures, with their own languages and customs, modes of worship, and codes of behaviour.

A Lakota Sioux is no more a Chippewa than a Scotsman is a Spaniard.

65 posted on 09/21/2004 10:58:32 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (A million liberals, at a million typewriters, in a million years......)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
If you ever get a chance, take a look at the Constitution of the Iroqouis Confederacy - it's well over 500 years old (pre-contact) and is an incredible system - especially for a bunch of stone-agers... ;0)

Quite a trick, for a group that had no written language or other means of recording what happened hundreds of years before, other than oral tradition, which tends to be corrupted and updated with each passing century and the experiences of the oral "traditionists". Ever play "telephone"?

Point me to a 500 year old document written by the natives in a native language 500 years ago, and I will admit the error of my ways and apologize naked at the Washington mall.

100 posted on 09/22/2004 11:13:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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