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ARG: 50 States & DC Poll: Kery 270, Bush 253 (All states results posted)
American Research Group ^ | 09/22/2004 | American Research Group

Posted on 09/22/2004 11:03:18 AM PDT by GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

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To: AxelPaulsenJr
oh, don't be so sensative.

Who's being "so sensative".? I was trying to be helpful.
I have posted the same links on many threads many times.
(Most of the time I get a "thank you")

(Typing all caps is bad manners)

61 posted on 09/22/2004 12:25:57 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

From The Kerry Spot:

UPDATE: Kerry Spot reader Matthew points out, "If you click on each state of this poll individually, you will see how distorted the polls are. For example, look at Illinois. The sampling is 29% Republicans, and 42% Democrats. And Bush only trails by 6? Same with PA. 42% are Republicans and 48% are Democrats. The poll also is weighted more towards women than men."

Yup, as I look over this, I see Florida is 55 percent women, 45 percent men. Ohio, 54 percent women, 46 percent men.

Also Kerry Spot reader Michael notes that this ARG poll has essentially the same results as the ARG poll completed 9/1, a 47-47 tie.

__________________

As you can see, 2000 data is not adequate for weighting since 9/11, too much has changed.


62 posted on 09/22/2004 12:25:57 PM PDT by Eva
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
Take Bush's totals, add 3-5 points, take Kerry's totals, minus 3-5 from them and go from there. They lean left.

As you wish! (Lotsa pretty red numbers, now!)

Bush Kerry Nader Other DK Sep
US

(weighted)

50% 43% 1% 1% 5% 7-21
State:
Alabama 57% 37% 1% 0% 4% 13-16
Alaska 60% 27% 5% 3% 5% 9-11
Arizona 52% 40% * 1% 6% 11-14
Arkansas 51% 42% 2% 0% 5% 15-17
California 44% 49% * 1% 6% 11-13
Colorado 49% 42% 3% 1% 6% 10-13
Connecticut 42% 51% 1% 1% 5% 12-14
Delaware 44% 47% 2% 1% 6% 13-15
DC 14% 75% 6% 1% 4% 11-13
Florida 48% 43% 2% 1% 6% 17-20
Georgia 56% 39% * 1% 4% 11-13
Hawaii 44% 47% 4% 0% 4% 7-11
Idaho 62% 27% 3% 1% 7% 8-10
Illinois 46% 46% 2% 1% 5% 13-16
Indiana 57% 42% * 1% 6% 16-20
Iowa 51% 43% 1% 1% 5% 12-14
Kansas 60% 32% 2% 1% 6% 15-18
Kentucky 60% 36% 1% 0% 4% 8-12
Louisiana 53% 39% 1% 1% 6% 17-21
Maine 47% 44% 4% 0% 5% 8-10
Maryland 46% 49% 2% 0% 3% 7-9
Massachusetts 30% 61% * 1% 7% 10-13
Michigan 43% 45% 1% 1% 9% 17-21
Minnesota 48% 44% 2% 1% 5% 10-12
Mississippi 54% 45% 1% 1% 5% 14-17
Missouri 53% 41% * 1% 5% 16-19
Montana 63% 29% 3% 0% 5% 7-9
Nebraska 64% 27% 2% 1% 6% 9-12
Nevada 50% 42% 1% 1% 6% 12-14
New Hampshire 50% 42% 1% 1% 7% 15-17
New Jersey 45% 48% 1% 1% 6% 13-16
New Mexico 47% 46% 1% 0% 6% 14-16
New York 43% 49% 1% 2% 4% 14-16
North Carolina 52% 41% * 1% 6% 13-16
North Dakota 65% 30% 1% 0% 4% 7-10
Ohio 51% 43% 1% 1% 5% 17-20
Oklahoma 58% 35% * 1% 6% 15-20
Oregon 48% 44% 2% 1% 5% 10-13
Pennsylvania 49% 44% 1% 1% 5% 15-19
Rhode Island 33% 55% 4% 1% 6% 11-13
South Carolina 55% 37% 1% 1% 7% 14-16
South Dakota 61% 36% 1% 1% 2% 8-12
Tennessee 53% 40% 1% 1% 5% 16-18
Texas 61% 33% 1% 1% 5% 16-20
Utah 67% 24% 4% 1% 5% 10-13
Vermont 43% 47% 4% 0% 7% 9-12
Virginia 52% 40% * 1% 7% 12-14
Washington 47% 48% 2% 0% 3% 9-13
West Virginia 49% 43% 2% 1% 6% 14-16
Wisconsin 49% 43% 1% 1% 6% 12-15
Wyoming 62% 26% 2% 0% 3% 9-11
My personal revising of the above-listed polling results

63 posted on 09/22/2004 12:28:03 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Fiddlstix

It just seems nit-picking to me. I get his point, the poll is highly suspect and therefor, is BULL.


64 posted on 09/22/2004 12:38:40 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Bush is up in New Hampshire in both ARG and other polls.

I know it. It is just my gut feeling.

In the end, I think the New Englanders will all stick with the local guy. Hope I miss that one obviously.

65 posted on 09/22/2004 12:41:32 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
Before anyone flips out.. It's ARG.. Take Bush's totals, add 3-5 points, take Kerry's totals, minus 3-5 from them and go from there. They lean left.

I fully agree, and moreover, they did the same thing in 2000 (they had Gore winning in a blowout on the eve of the election, even in such deep red states as Louisiana, Tennesseem and Kentucky). They definitely lean about 6-7 points to the left of just about everyone else. But is ARG a Rat biased poll or merely a non-affliliated left-biased poll?

66 posted on 09/22/2004 12:46:04 PM PDT by kesg
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
It just seems nit-picking to me. I get his point, the poll is highly suspect and therefor, is BULL.

I get his point too. In fact, take a look at My Post: Click here

The guy is a newbie. I'm not nit-picking. I have always tried to help newbies.

(Do a "search". You'll see I have.)

67 posted on 09/22/2004 12:49:21 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: flashbunny
This poll is crap

I agree

Illinos had a sample size of 600 yet they claim the margin of error is only 4% ???

And from the results it was obviously taken in Cook County

Most of Illinois is split evenly as far as what party people say they are in

68 posted on 09/22/2004 12:51:10 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Fiddlstix
I also have no doubt that you think the poll is crap.

I just don't let all caps in someone's post bother me.

69 posted on 09/22/2004 12:52:12 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: RockinRight

I think the ohio poll was double digits for bush, either 10 or 11 up.


70 posted on 09/22/2004 12:54:28 PM PDT by flashbunny (RINO's pleading for unity means they want to sabotage the republican party in peace.)
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To: rang1995

Bush has to go TOTAL no hold barred at the debates. Both barrels


71 posted on 09/22/2004 12:55:57 PM PDT by omstrat (zip code)
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To: rang1995

Bush has to go TOTAL no hold barred at the debates. Both barrels


72 posted on 09/22/2004 12:56:04 PM PDT by omstrat (zip code)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

Well that settles it. Bush should shuffle his campaign staff 2 or 3 times immediately and try to get a consistent message out right away.

dims are so dim.


73 posted on 09/22/2004 12:58:07 PM PDT by snooker (French Fried Flip Flopper still Flouncing, be careful out there.)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

OK, it is ARG, and it does have both PA and FL in Kerry's column, although recent polls I've seen have Bush with a 3-4 point lead in FL and 1-2 point lead in PA BUT...

I have noticed a continual downward trend since the beginning of the month with the EC vote. Bush averaged about 312 right after the convention, and ever since has gone down in each subsequent count (RCP and EV included) Now he's down to approx 288. At this rate he will lose the electoral college. Hopefully we'll plateau soon (waiting nervously for debates)


74 posted on 09/22/2004 1:00:26 PM PDT by Hoodlum91
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To: Hoodlum91

W. is gonna need some major help as we get closer to the election. One major such help would be the start of the hussein trial in October.


75 posted on 09/22/2004 1:02:42 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Excellence In Posting Since 1999)
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To: omstrat

He's gonna hand Kerry his a$$ in the debates, methinks.


76 posted on 09/22/2004 1:07:48 PM PDT by RockinRight (W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
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To: Hoodlum91

That sounds true enough, but then look at NJ showing a tie or Bush lead, same with Oregon, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania.

Kerry won't break 200 EV's in the end.


77 posted on 09/22/2004 1:09:10 PM PDT by RockinRight (W stands for whoop-a**!!!)
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To: Fiddlstix
(Typing all caps is bad manners)

I THINK MOST PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN OVER THAT HANGUP BY NOW. ;)

78 posted on 09/22/2004 1:09:34 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("The common man doesn't look at me as some rich witch." --Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

I think these polls help us to keep our eye on the ball. We can't get too comfortable.


79 posted on 09/22/2004 1:20:01 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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