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Fox: Commercial Pilots 'attacked' with laser
Fox News | Greta Van Susteren

Posted on 09/28/2004 8:12:49 PM PDT by ableChair

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To: Kirkwood

Daly would probably beg to differ with you. I think he may be a FReeper. I think he also wrote a book about it. :-)


81 posted on 09/28/2004 8:32:22 PM PDT by abner (http://www.swiftvets.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: bcoffey
"...During the cold war, laser weapons were designed to ruin the optics in weapon systems and the lens in the human eye. If the pilot couldn't see, he'd crash."

Not quite true.
Sov's spent a lot of effort on optics and lasers. Not just to 'ruin optics' but to trick them.

Problem with a laser is that it is just as hard to direct as a bullet is and takes a LOT more power to employ.

82 posted on 09/28/2004 8:32:31 PM PDT by norton
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To: bonfire

Probably not

if the

REPTOIDS are driving.


83 posted on 09/28/2004 8:33:07 PM PDT by Quix (CONTACT CHURCHES UR AREA 2 HAVE SOLID PLAN 4 BUSSES VANS 2 GET CONSRV VOTERS 2 POLLS ELECTION DAY!)
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To: bonfire
Somehow UFO's seem kinda "girly" now, don't they??

You got a point there. :-0

84 posted on 09/28/2004 8:33:13 PM PDT by abner (http://www.swiftvets.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Squantos

Apparently even low power lasers, as those used as laser pointers can cause problems.

"CASE REPORTS. From January
1996 to July 1999, the FAA’s Western-Pacific Region identified more than 150 incidents in which low-flying
aircraft were illuminated by lasers. Laser pointers were used in the majority of these incidents, and there were
several occurrences of visual impairment to the pilot. Representative examples of documented reports are
presented that involved the illumination of civilian flight crewmembers by these hand-held devices.
CONCLUSIONS. Laser pointers have caused ocular injury and may compromise aviation safety when used
to illuminate aircraft in critical phases of flight."


http://www.hf.faa.gov/docs/508/docs/cami/0107.pdf


85 posted on 09/28/2004 8:34:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: skyman
It wasn't a P-3 pilot , it was a observer on a Coast Guard Chopper that was directed to inspect a Soviet cargo ship ( a known spy ship) entering Pudget Sound shortly after the arrival of a US Boomer.
The Observer suffered burns to his eyes from a laser directed at him when he was photographing the ship.
Subsequent inspection of the ship (after many days of diplomatic haggling) was twarthed by the crew refusing to open spaces and voids that were newly welded shut.
The Clinton Admin let it slide..
The US Observer has retired from the service with permanent eye damage.
What we need to know here is .... Who , what ,where ,how ... was the A/c airborne? was it at cruse? Approach?
86 posted on 09/28/2004 8:34:46 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: bonfire

Apparently. All I know is the flight was enroute to Salt Lake City.


87 posted on 09/28/2004 8:35:15 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: Quix

LOL!


88 posted on 09/28/2004 8:36:19 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: ableChair

A high intensity laser could burn a hole in eyeball....

First hand the beer over to your friend...

Next take any of the first crop of laser sighting devices and point it at your eye in a mirror...

You will be in pain...and probably fall into the bathtub if you arent carefull and did this in the bathroom mirror

Your friend will probably say something like "Whoa!...that was AWESOME"

Now imagine a really big laser hitting you in the eye....and you are a pilot...

The military uses goggles designed for protection against such lasers as well as rifle scopes that will protect the user from being 'lased' will sighting...


89 posted on 09/28/2004 8:36:48 PM PDT by joesnuffy (If you can read this tagline...thank the "Big Blogger")
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To: Leroy S. Mort

Ahh, well, looks like it made it into the English language! My dictionary is 1994, so it must be a recent addition. Thanks for the info.


90 posted on 09/28/2004 8:36:51 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: Leroy S. Mort

'The newspaper said the incident, which occurred at midday, was described in a "classified Pentagon report."

The report said the Russian ship was spying on a U.S. nuclear submarine in waters off Washington state when a "laser beam" was "fired" at a Canadian helicopter, injuring the pilot and a U.S. Navy officer on board taking pictures, the paper said.

Cohn was ineffective, as usual. 'Nothing to see, (pardon the pun), move on".....


91 posted on 09/28/2004 8:37:02 PM PDT by bitt
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To: spodefly

It was Bill Gertz. He was on with Greta and he reported this.


92 posted on 09/28/2004 8:37:47 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: lonevoice

Not sure how to do that. I'll try, though. Thanks.


93 posted on 09/28/2004 8:38:06 PM PDT by ableChair
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To: bitt; Robe

Thanks for the more accurate info.


94 posted on 09/28/2004 8:38:40 PM PDT by abner (http://www.swiftvets.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: BearWash
Don't you like acronyms that are made into nouns that are made into verbs?

Yes, when it makes sense. It's All-American (and in a way, All-English), as opposed to France where they have a government-controlled language and levy fines if official communications stray from the officially condoned "pure" French language.

If doublespeak is ever imposed globally it won't make much headway in the USA!

95 posted on 09/28/2004 8:39:47 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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To: Squantos
Can't cause damage to the pilot's eyes. The beam has to enter the pupil of the eye, so that means the pilot has to be looking at the source. The distance from the plane is likely miles and so the light is attenuated by atmospheric effects and the square of the distance from the source, plus it is affected by reflection according to Lambert's law (cosine law) on striking the window. In addition, blinding lasers are going to be either UV or IR and therefore invisible to the pilot. The pilot is behind UV and IR absorbing cockpit windows. If anything did happen, it was a simply a flash that temporarily saturated the photoreceptors of the eye (like a bright camera flash). Any affect on vision will be temporary.
96 posted on 09/28/2004 8:39:57 PM PDT by Kirkwood (I think, therefore I am Republican!)
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To: Robe

Here is another incident:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/ccw/news/bosnia981104_laser.html

Nov. 4, 1998

Lasers Burn U.S. Pilots’ Eyes

Two American helicopter pilots flying peacekeeping missions over Bosnia have had their eyes burned after lasers were aimed at them from the ground.


97 posted on 09/28/2004 8:40:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: ableChair; lonevoice; Admin Moderator

Admin: This thread's author would like a headline change to reflect gravity (and scariness) of this story.


98 posted on 09/28/2004 8:40:11 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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To: jbstrick

thanks -

let's direct it towards Fallujah.


99 posted on 09/28/2004 8:40:12 PM PDT by bitt
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To: BearWash
Don't you like acronyms that are made into nouns that are made into verbs?

Maybe it fubar'd you but I radared it's meaning right away.

100 posted on 09/28/2004 8:40:53 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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