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To: Imnotalib

I believe abortion is wrong. I also believe it is wrong to bring a child into this world who's only chance for a reasonably normal and successful life is to be raised and cared for by others not responsible for its conception. That, for me, is the dilemma. I don't know the answer.


7 posted on 10/03/2004 7:51:19 AM PDT by Cornpone ((Aging Warrior))
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To: Cornpone
I also believe it is wrong to bring a child into this world who's only chance for a reasonably normal and successful life is to be raised and cared for by others not responsible for its conception.

Like Clinton, who was cared for by his grandparents?

11 posted on 10/03/2004 7:57:47 AM PDT by syriacus (Showing Bush's facial expressions is great, as long as the Dems include Kerry's spoken words.)
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To: Cornpone
I believe abortion is wrong. I also believe it is wrong to bring a child into this world who's only chance for a reasonably normal and successful life is to be raised and cared for by others not responsible for its conception. That, for me, is the dilemma. I don't know the answer.

The answer is adoption.

12 posted on 10/03/2004 8:01:06 AM PDT by Monitor (Gun control isn't about guns; it's about control.)
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To: Cornpone

Well, let the child decide: Would you rather be DEAD, or would you rather live in a home with parents who love you and care for you, even though they didn't conceive you? Where's the dilemma?


15 posted on 10/03/2004 8:03:15 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Cornpone
I believe abortion is wrong. I also believe it is wrong to bring a child into this world who's only chance for a reasonably normal and successful life is to be raised and cared for by others not responsible for its conception. That, for me, is the dilemma. I don't know the answer.

And, honestly, no one has ever responded to that question? I have to admit, that is awfully hard for me to believe — like someone saying soberly, "I know it's wrong for me to take stuff that belongs to other people... but I really want that stuff, and they have it, and I can take it, so why shouldn't I?" The folks you hang around with have really let you down, if no one has been able to tackle that one. Life poses many really knotty questions -- that isn't one of them.

So, assuming no one truly has ever answered that question for you, let's change that now: you don't kill someone (or allow him to be killed) because you're afraid he might not have a happy life.

There y'go.

Here's a little more. Think it through. If it is morally legitimate to kill a child (or let someone kill him) when he is at his most helpless and vulnerable, because you don't think much of the lifestyle he might have to accommodate himself, then this same principle applies throughout his life, not just during gestation.

So, say Andy is born to affluent parents. Good, we'll let him live. But then say they get a divorce, he lives with his father, and his father is so strapped by the divorce settlement and the outsourcing of his job, that he is destined for poverty. And so, therefore, is Andy.

Well, if it's morally legitimate to kill newly-conceived Andy because he might end up poor, then it is equally legitimate to kill one-year-old Andy, or five-year-old Andy, or ten-year-old Andy, for the same reason.

Hope that helps. Either way, your question is no longer unanswered.

Dan
The Bible and the Bull's-Eye on the Baby

24 posted on 10/03/2004 8:13:25 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Cornpone

So should all kids not in the home of their parents --- adopted to couples who wanted kids, or in foster homes, or in orphanages or other group homes be put to death?


29 posted on 10/03/2004 8:17:34 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Cornpone
I also believe it is wrong to bring a child into this world who's only chance for a reasonably normal and successful life...

That's just it--the baby who is allowed to live has a chance. An aborted life has no chance at all. The woman who chooses to abort and realizes, down the road, what a horrific mistake she made, has no chance to go back and set things right.

While I do not condone promiscuity, I would rather help support a woman who has six kids by six different men than I would support a woman who has six abortions by six different men.

31 posted on 10/03/2004 8:21:35 AM PDT by grellis (Quick, someone post a Python graphic!)
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To: Cornpone
I'm confused...where's the dilemma? Do you know how many couples are just sitting around waiting for the opportunity to love a child unwanted by the birth parents? We once were alienated from God but as Christians we have been adopted back into His family.
35 posted on 10/03/2004 8:24:43 AM PDT by Hawkeye
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To: Cornpone
Just as a point, neither Mary nor Joseph were responsible for Jesus' conception. He did just fine.

A more modern example is Michael Reagan who has more of his father in him than the fell far from the apple tree and rolled down the hill into the gutter biological son Ron Reagan.
51 posted on 10/03/2004 8:48:18 AM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: Cornpone
"I believe abortion is wrong. I also believe it is wrong to bring a child into this world who's only chance for a reasonably normal and successful life is to be raised and cared for by others not responsible for its conception. That, for me, is the dilemma. I don't know the answer."

Who says an unwanted pregnancy is tantamount to failure? How do we know that a life that was conceived unexpectedly will automatically not live a normal life? It's the liberals who push this hypothesis. Why? The want abortion on demand and are getting rich for it. There is absolutely no data to conclude that the children of those who chose life are failures. It's propaganda, my friend. As you know in your heart, abortion is wrong. There is a war going on against the unborn! How dare anyone call the unborn failures without any voice? What kind of justice is that? Remember that the unborn are innocent beings, who should not be abandoned because of their parents' sins. Let's pray to bring the culture of life back into the culture of America.
53 posted on 10/03/2004 8:55:37 AM PDT by Raquel (Liberals abide by a standard all their own.)
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To: Cornpone

Well, if you believe that God is omnicient (all knowing), omnipresent(present everywhere) and omnipotent (all powerful), then you'd agree that every human being is planned and loved by the creator. There aren't any accidental pregnancies. When we terminate the life of a pre-born child, we are guilty of trying to be god and destroying another human's life because of our inability to see any worth in them because of their earthly circumstances. Did man create god? Or did God create man?


76 posted on 10/03/2004 10:55:33 AM PDT by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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