Posted on 10/06/2004 2:27:43 PM PDT by JesseHousman
Hee, hee, hee!
Actually, it's called onshore offshoring. I work in IT. Two buildings here are filled with them. This is in Seattle, which has an astoundingly high number of unemployed IT workers. It's treason if you ask me. They come here, work for the American dollar, contribute nothing in the way of civil duty, then head back home with pockets stuffed with cash. I wouldn't mind it half so much if they weren't so arrogant and unfriendly. And it isn't just me that has made the observation.
Well, you just summed up my thoughts.
Whats your point...people who design high tech electronics...many of which finds its way into COTS DOD programs, or in many cases into DOD weapons and defense electronics should transition to writing traffic tickets?
How many cops do we need. How many cops do YOU want on the local and state government payroll?
I just find it amazing that the left whines about outsourcing, but nothing about this little "quirk" in the system.
"Do what I did when I couldn't find a job in my home state: MOVE!"
As a consultant with my own company, I spent several years on the road traveling and commuting on weekends. Let me tell you, it is no life for a family man, or anybody for that matter.
Most companies today offer slim or none in the way of relocation benefits. Depending on the amount of equity in your house, and the situation with your kids, it may make sense to commute, as many do, living at home only on weekends.
Without a travel expense deduction, you cannot save money this way.
Relocationg third worlders to undercut wages is the problem.
"Hear! Hear!...tired of folks expecting jobs handed to them in their chosen field...Work is something to pay the bills..."
Thats fine for you to say. What you do for a living and your job satisfaction is your business.
However, it takes more than that attitude to build a strong economy which can compete globally with other economies. Lets say we all drive trucks for a living. India and China make all of the stuff that goes into the trucks we drive around.
Now hears the tough question...who has a better standard of living...those who make and sell the products...or those who drive the delivery trucks?
pingin
"I tried HARD to find US people - H1B's were a serious pain in the neck. I called thousands (no exaggeration) of people to fill hundreds of high level positions and time and time again I would hear "$45 per hr for someone with my credentials? I wouldn't flip a burger for that. "
Okay...having worked in aerospace and defense for years I'd say you are leaving out something. $90K for a senior level engineer (employee)is a fairly decent rate.
However, if your talking about California, and youre talking to a man who owns a $180K house, to move to an equivalent house costs what....$300K, $400K, you tell me.
I know because I contemplated the same move years ago.
Then theres the issue of security clearances. There are plenty of engineering positions available out there...BUT... they require a CURRENT security clearance. The waitng list for clearnaces is over a year now.
I dont suppose those jobs you speak of were in that category.
My point is simply that while our law proscribes the H1-B Visa program, it also sets parameters for it; that being the case, just as with all "INS" type proscriptions, appropriate enforcement of our law beats chaos.
You are dead wrong on that. Free trade was the mantra of the slave-owning Democrats leading up to the Civil War. The Democrats continued to be anti-tariff and anti-protectionist through the Reconstruction, the Industrial Revolution, and through the Roaring Twenties.
The Republicans supported protectionist policies for American industry and tariffs (for revenue and for protection of American industry) from the time of the party's creation, and up until the neo-liberals starting converting to neo-cons in the last couple of decades.
Lincoln supported protectionism for American industry, as did McKinley, Coolidge, and Eisenhower, and Reagan.
Of course the Free Traitors will try to find one example in each of those administrations to support their contention that "Free Traitin" is a Republican value, but they will still be dead wrong.
Democrats spent years trying to shift the burden of taxation onto productivity as opposed to taxing imports and consumption. Wilson finally accomplished it. Since 1913, the Democrats and Republicans have simply disagreed on the desirable magnitude of this slave tax.
My, are you bitter. Did you forget to take your meds?
I'm one of them ... was out 16 months ... Ipersonally know at least ten others who were let go and an H1B took their place. Motorola, Teradyne and Cisco in SILICON VALLEY to be precise
"appropriate enforcement of our law beats chaos."
If you talk to people in the know, they will tell you that there is little or NO enforcement possible for violations of the H1b / L1 program. Thats one of the main issues with this program. Companies can fudge in many ways, and there is no way to insure compliance. Compliance for the government means simply filling out the forms. If the forms are submitted correctly, the bullsh*t thats on them cannot be verified or enforced by the Feds.
Why no, not at all. What makes you think that?
I trust your confusion about Revolutionary American history has been cleared up.
I'm always happy to help you late arrivals.
ping to self
Been there. After 9-11, business was terrible for well over a year and small guys like myself were squeezed financially. I have invested lots of time and money in the business Im in...which is custom electronics for research, development and test.
Where things are going for this profession is nebulous at best.
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