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***Terrorism*** Dems, Then & Now
National Review Online ^ | October 7, 2004 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 10/07/2004 5:24:16 PM PDT by christie

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Dems, Then & Now
Iraq terror-tie facts changed with the campaign season for Kerry and co.

To hear Iraq-war critics claim that Saddam Hussein lacked terror ties is to stand on a beach and listen to people deny the existence of sand. Now, comes John Kerry, strolling in his flip-flops, chanting the no-such-thing-as-sand mantra.

"Iraq was not a terrorist haven before the invasion," Kerry told Philadelphia voters September 24. "Iraq is now what it was not before the war: a haven for terrorists."

"The president just talked about Iraq as a center of the war on terror," Kerry said during the September 30 presidential debate. "Iraq was not even close to the center of the war on terror before the president invaded it."

Kerry's current position contradicts at least 15 key Democrats, Democratic-led federal agencies, and Establishment-Left media organizations that — at least until this election year — believed the inescapable truth: Saddam Hussein did have ties to terrorists, including al Qaeda.

If Kerry wishes to correct his recent, erroneous remarks, he should study the words of a Massachusetts senator named...John Kerry.

"I still don't see the hammer that's going to convince him to open anything up," O'Reilly replied.

Kerry continued: "The hammer, ultimately, will be the evidence that we uncover as we go further down the trail that shows his support for terrorism and begins to build the coalition even more strongly."

If the new John Kerry finds the old John Kerry's words unpersuasive, the former should consult Stephen Hayes's indispensable best seller, The Connection: How al Qaeda's Collaboration with Saddam Hussein Has Endangered America, a guided tour of the terrorism factory that was Baathist Iraq. Among overwhelming evidence of Saddam Hussein's terrorist activities, Kerry will find numerous statements by liberal journalists, leading Democrats, and even a Clinton-appointed federal judge tying Saddam Hussein to Islamist terror.

"The majority of the people who work in the World Trade Center are Jews," Yasin said, explaining why he and his comrades targeted the WTC. Stahl interviewed Yasin in Baghdad where he fled after the blast, which killed six individuals and wounded 1,042. Before presenting him to Stahl, Iraqi authorities claimed they jailed Yasin for the bombing.

Importantly, papers like these, and the post-liberation arrests of terrorists in Iraq — such as the now-deceased Palestinian extremist Abu Abbas — have implicated Saddam Hussein even further since his defeat.

The next day, Clinton and Edwards voted to authorize the Iraq war, as did John Kerry, back when he was for it, before he was against it.

"I believe it is definitely more likely than not that some degree of common effort in the sense of aiding or abetting or conspiracy was involved here between Iraq and the al-Qaeda," Woolsey said under oath on March 3, 2003. Clinton's CIA chief from 1993 to 1995 added: "Even if one cannot show that...any of the individual 19 hijackers were trained at Salman Pak, the nature of the training and the circumstances suggest, to my mind, at least, some kind of common aiding, abetting, assistance, cooperation — whatever word you might want to take."

Mylroie, a former Naval War College associate professor, testified: "It took a state like Iraq to carry out an attack as really sophisticated, massive and deadly as what happened on September 11."

"I conclude that plaintiffs have shown, albeit barely, 'by evidence satisfactory to the court,' that Iraq provided material support to bin Laden and al Qaeda," Baer announced May 7, 2003, in Manhattan. He then awarded the plaintiffs $104 million in Baathist funds.

Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (Conclusion 95, page 347): "The Central Intelligence Agency's assessment on safe haven — that al-Qaida or associated operatives were present in Baghdad and in northeastern Iraq in an area under Kurdish control — was reasonable."

The 9/11 Commission Report (page 61): "With the Sudanese regime acting as intermediary, Bin Ladin himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995. Bin Ladin is said to have asked for space to establish training camps, as well as assistance in procuring weapons, but there is no evidence that Iraq responded to this request." However, "the ensuing years saw additional efforts to establish connections."

The 9/11 Commission Report (page 66): "In March 1998, after Bin Ladin's public fatwa against the United States, two al Qaeda members reportedly went to Iraq to meet with Iraqi intelligence. In July, an Iraqi delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with the Taliban and then with Bin Ladin. Sources reported that one, or perhaps both, of these meetings was apparently arranged through Bin Ladin's Egyptian deputy, [Ayman al] Zawahiri, who had ties of his own to the Iraqis."

Many of these details would shock most Americans, even most news junkies. Thank the Bush administration for that. It has been, charitably, flaccid about detailing Saddam Hussein's terrorist resume. Administration officials tell me they fear doing so may invite media criticism.

That is pathetic.

If President Bush stopped campaigning and spent the next week at a soup kitchen, the media carping would commence at once: "Why now?...Why not a month ago?... The soup is too hot...The soup is too cold...Beef barley?...What about the homeless vegetarians?..."

So, President Bush might as well showcase the abundant proof of Hussein's generosity to terrorists. Critics will hiss. Supporters will cheer. And undecided voters will learn how vital it is that he dislodged the man who was global terrorism's chief benefactor.

As for John Kerry, he once again reveals himself as an opportunist who tailors his views, even on Saddam Hussein's philanthropy of terror, to fit his political ends.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demflipflops; dems; iraq; stolenhonor
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"I think we clearly have to keep the pressure on terrorism globally. This doesn't end with Afghanistan by any imagination,"

They connected the dots in 1998 but Senator Kerry and MSM can't seem to connect the dots in 2004.

More to add to this easy to read chart of what the media was saying pre-911 (and after): Connect the Dots...Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

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1 posted on 10/07/2004 5:24:18 PM PDT by christie
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To: Peach; Fedora; YaYa123; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; WOSG; LSUfan; nutmeg; backhoe; stockpirate; ...

Iraq and terrorism ping.


2 posted on 10/07/2004 5:25:21 PM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: christie

They are all hypocrites. The party comes before America. They were all gung-ho for an Iraq attack when a democrat was president. It didn't bother them to bomb the bejeesus out of Kosovo, who did us no harm, but it behooves them to prevent another 911. They are disgusting!


3 posted on 10/07/2004 5:32:26 PM PDT by Jaidyn
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To: christie

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Beware the Id's of October:


HILLARY & TERRORISM's plan to regain the White House

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022571/posts

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4 posted on 10/07/2004 5:34:40 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: christie

I think thw MINORITY satus after having been the MAJORITY for 49 years is SO HARD to take, that it has caused all this crap..... I mean that it was very definitive when THEY were in power that we were on the "Right" tract.. now that the Republican Party is in charge we are pn the wrong tract? PPPPPLLLAAAAAEEAAASSSEEE


5 posted on 10/07/2004 5:35:37 PM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: christie

BUMP!


6 posted on 10/07/2004 5:37:07 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: christie

bump!


7 posted on 10/07/2004 5:41:20 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: christie
Many of these details would shock most Americans, even most news junkies. Thank the Bush administration for that. It has been, charitably, flaccid about detailing Saddam Hussein's terrorist resume. Administration officials tell me they fear doing so may invite media criticism.

What the heck is this.

Criticism?

BRING IT ON!

8 posted on 10/07/2004 5:49:48 PM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: christie

Boy! This really makes it crystal clear how complicit the MSM is in parroting the DNC propaganda as the election draws closer and closer!


9 posted on 10/07/2004 6:16:28 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: christie

As this illustrates, John Kerry is simply a lying opportunist who is willing to undermine national security for the sake of personal political gain. Bush should take off the kid gloves and call this traitor what he is. At the next debate, don't just call Kerry "inconsistent": take a print-out like this list of his and his party's prior statements, read it out loud, and shove the facts in his face.


10 posted on 10/07/2004 6:20:40 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: wisconsinconservative

save


11 posted on 10/07/2004 6:50:38 PM PDT by wisconsinconservative ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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To: christie


Seared in Their Memories
Former POWs remember Kerry all too painfully well.

Amid the controversies over John Kerry's and George W. Bush's real and invented military records, the Mainstream Media spotlight has avoided one amazing fact: Former Vietnam POWs remember their captors using Kerry's words as instruments of intimidation and torture.

"The interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry," recalls James Warner, a Marine pilot who was shot down and held near Hanoi for five years and five months. "He starts pounding on the table. 'See, here, this naval officer. He admits that you are a criminal and that you deserve punishment.' ...I didn't know what was going to come next. In other words, for the rest of the time we were in that camp, I was very ill at ease."

Warner — who earned a Silver Star and two Purple Hearts — appears in Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal. This 45-minute documentary, produced by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Carlton Sherwood, is available via stolenhonor.com. It presents POWs who argue that John Kerry's fallacious spring 1971 claims that U.S. atrocities occurred "on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command" amplified their agony under America's North Vietnamese enemies. (See, also, Kate O'Beirne, "Honor Reclaimed.")

"That was a very difficult time," says former Air Force pilot Leo Thorsness, a Congressional Medal of Honor winner who spent five years and 19 days in North Vietnamese hands. "The things he [Kerry] said were just devastating, because he was using words like 'war criminal' and that kind of stuff. As a prisoner of war, we were being told we were war criminals, and that we'd be tried for war crimes, and unless we confess, and ask for forgiveness, and badmouth the war, and take their side in the war, we'd never go home."

Adds retired Air Force colonel Ken Cordier: "I was outraged and still am that he [Kerry] willingly said things which were untrue — the very same points that we took torture not to write and say." Cordier was incarcerated for six years and three months.

Stolen Honor describes the conditions in which POWs were detained. They were held in solitary confinement and communicated among each other by tapping coded messages through the dark, dank walls. Some prisoners were hung from the walls with their wrists behind their backs, causing shoulder injuries that persist even today. Others, who broke limbs in combat, were forced to sit or stand in positions that exacerbated their agony. The North Vietnamese constantly tormented them psychologically, to fracture their will and shatter their morale. John Kerry's voice aided those efforts.

Former Navy pilot Paul Galanti remembers his jailers at the so-called Hanoi Hilton playing English-language radio broadcasts of Kerry's April 22, 1971 testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

"They made a big deal about this guy who was a naval officer, talking about all these atrocities and war crimes," Galanti told Human Events. "They'd been for years saying, 'You're not prisoners of war, you're war criminals. You're never going home. We're going to try you after the war, and you'll all be found guilty of war crimes.'"

Not long ago, Galanti linked that voice from yesterday with the man running for president today. While recently watching a documentary on the peace movement, Galanti heard Kerry claim that American GIs in Vietnam "razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan." Kerry distinctly pronounced "Genghis" with soft Gs (as in "gelatin") rather than hard ones (as in "grit").

"Right away, I said, 'Hey, wait a minute. That's the guy I heard in Hanoi,'" Galanti concluded.

Former Air Force captain Tom Collins also remembers his North Vietnamese captors forcing him to listen to Kerry's statements as well as Jane Fonda's antiwar remarks.

"I wasn't necessarily disappointed in Jane Fonda," Collins told Human Events. "I figured she's just some airhead Hollywood actress. So what? But then along comes this military officer...I expected more out of a Navy lieutenant. That's why I was so demoralized. It was far worse for him to do it."

Put yourself in these men's shoes: Imagine the prospect of hearing from the Oval Office the same voice your jailers used 33 years ago to break your mind in two.

 
     


 

 
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200410070853.asp
     


12 posted on 10/07/2004 7:33:05 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: christie

Quite the article, christie. Thank for the ping; I'd have hated to miss this one.


13 posted on 10/07/2004 7:58:28 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach
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If Kerry wishes to correct his recent, erroneous remarks, he should study the words of a Massachusetts senator named . . . John Kerry.
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14 posted on 10/07/2004 8:58:26 PM PDT by christie (John F. Kerry Timeline - http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html)
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To: christie

**Bump**


15 posted on 10/07/2004 10:56:36 PM PDT by TwoStep (Ignorance can be cured, stupid is forever!)
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To: christie

Roger That ~ Bump!

Be Ever Vigilant!


16 posted on 10/08/2004 11:23:03 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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