Posted on 10/10/2004 9:13:59 AM PDT by finnigan2
Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore, Kerry has adamantly refused to authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary, and highly suspect. There are 5 classes of Discharge:
Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and Dishonorable.
My guess is that he was discharged in the '70s, but not honorably. He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge was then granted. His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy, along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor under fire. This will blow up in his face before October 15th. On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6-year enlistment contract with the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime). On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract for 6 years - 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & 5). Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3 years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was also subject to the Uniform Cod! e of Military Justice. Additionally, Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse statements against his chain of command or statements against his country, especially during time of war. It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable discharge until Mar. 12, 2001 even though his service obligation should have ended July 1, 1972. Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of obligated service would be completed in December of this year." On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland. Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active duty per yea r training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these records been released? Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval Reserve Center where Kerry drilled? On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve -Inactive. On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval Reserve.
Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War: 1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid and comfort to the enemy. 2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating members of the US Senate. 3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam. 4. Lt . Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national television, and condemned the military and the USA.5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in direct violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution. Lt. Kerry by his own words &actions violated the UCMJ and the US Code while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of Article 3, Section 3 of the US Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970 meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ’s Article 104 part 904, and US Code 18 U. S. C. 953. That meeting, and Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare. The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-president, having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL Director, AuthentiSEAL "The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs" http://www.authentiseal.org/
Kerry put the "con" in "consolation".
This was on the call letter deficient station's website?
I think Jimmy Carter made the way for an honorable discharge. My opinion only.
This was on the call letter deficient station's website?
Here is a copy of Kerry's Honorable Discharge from February 16, 1978. This is from Kerry's web site, so it can be taken with a grain of salt. He should have been discharged around '72 or '73, and the '78 discharge was after Carter's amnesty.
More at the John F. Kerry Timeline.
A bad conduct discharge (BCD) is a disciplinary action, as a result of a finding of guilt by a Special or General Courts Martial. IIRC, a Summary Courts Martial does not have a BCD as a punishment option. So, a Special or General Courts Martial would have a presiding officer (judge) and a panel of other officers to hear the evidence and convict, or acquit. There would be court recordings, lawyers on both sides, plus LOTS of witnesses, etc., to any Special/General Courts Martial. Surely, one of the swift boat vets would be knowledgeable if such an event occurred.
Just a hunch, but based on events of last week in these forums and involving Jimmy Carter's name it's funny you mentioned that, but I have a funny feeling we'll be hearing more about that angle soon.....just a hunch....
I quietly stepped away from those guys and left with an Honorable Discharge.
Sing it loud and sing it often and sing it all over the place..now is the time.
Clearly the above document was produced on a word processor (fully justified text). I have documents from the Navy from the late seventies that do not look anything like that. Just because it is on his website, does not mean that it is not a fake.
BTTT
I do not know if any of this is tongue in cheek but thank God someone is pointing out all the treasonous behaviour and everything we DON'T know because Kerry won't sign the 180.
Of course they don't. In their eyes you are well trained and able. That is all they want. They don't know what active duty is because they did not participate. Accept it and use your experience for your own benefit. That's all you can do.
Concur. I'm an Army Brat from that era, and have all of Dad's old correspondence, and nothing looks even remotely like that doc. At best, it's all done on Selectrics with fixed-pitch Courier balls.
I'm waiting for the shoe to drop. LOL
The dates definitely don't sound right. I know my husband did 2 years of inactive dute after Viet Nam, then he got his honorable discharge. Kerry's 1978 isn't right.
BTTT
Sections 1162 and 1163 of title 10 do not seem to exist:
http://www.access.gpo.gov/uscode/title10/title10.html
What's up with that I wonder?
C'mon, it is a preprinted form with the Kerry info dropped in by computer. No different from my high school grades mailing from the early 70's
The other thing is that Kerry's discharge is actually fairly typical for someone who does not resign their commission. Even though he was inactive, his records would have gone through two tries fot Lt. Commander. After that, he would have been discharged - 1978 seems to be the proper time. You guys need to spend a little time over at Swiftvets forum.
I know the guy is a skunk - but there are two main things for our focus. First are the lies he told after he came home that still today torture the veterans' minds. The other is that there is no evidence that that the supposed falsified reports that support Kerry's medals came from anyone other than John Kerry. The Swifties are doing the harder job of trying to prove that ONLY Kerry did or could write those reports.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.