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WHY I THINK THAT JOHN KERRY WON THE DEBATE (Neal Boortz)
Neal Nuze ^ | 10/14/04 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 10/14/2004 5:32:41 AM PDT by NotchJohnson

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To: NotchJohnson

I think he is saying that he won because he was aiming for the 'dumb-masses', and to them his lies and distortions seem to work.


21 posted on 10/14/2004 5:39:28 AM PDT by Jackknife (.......Land of the Free,because of the Brave.)
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To: NotchJohnson

bump


22 posted on 10/14/2004 5:39:30 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Truth, Justice and the Texan Way)
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To: NotchJohnson

I am not surprised. Boortz is not a very knowledgable person.


23 posted on 10/14/2004 5:39:59 AM PDT by SmithPatterson
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To: bonfire

I doubt it. He says that the person who says Gov't will cure all your troubles wins. IF that is what wins the debate, he was right. But only with that criteria.


24 posted on 10/14/2004 5:40:00 AM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: NotchJohnson; zot; Interesting Times; Former Military Chick

Look closely at the criteria Boortz uses to declare Kerry winning:

"Kerry did a magnificent job of appealing to people who believe that government is the answer to every problem they face in their lives, whether that problem relates to their job, their health care, or just paying their bills. I believe that the majority of Americans, a slim majority perhaps, but a majority, look to the government for either help or a solution every time."

Kerry's appeal to those who want a nanny state that Boortz focuses. He is saying that most of the people in this country want the government to do everything for them, and Kerry promised that. Thus Boortz is saying that there are fewer people who don't want to be serfs of the government than those who prefer the safety of slavery than to the chanes of freedom.


25 posted on 10/14/2004 5:40:31 AM PDT by GreyFriar (3rd Armored Division -- Spearhead)
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To: NotchJohnson

Abortion-on-demand (Kerry) is NOT a winning issue. I believe President Bush claimed two areas of far wider appeal, namely his deep religious faith and his devotion to women and family. With those, he walks away with the gold medal.


26 posted on 10/14/2004 5:41:03 AM PDT by T'wit (Liberals are incapable of admitting a truth unless they add a lie about the Right -- for "balance.")
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To: NotchJohnson; All
From the perspective of the lawyer who has had the experience of preparing my client for a deposition by counsel for another party on the same side of the case, I thought Kerry knew the questions that were coming before they were asked.

I have the clear impression that Kerry had a look at the questions directed to him before the debate. Don't know how you would get at the facts or prove that.

Clear mistake by Jim Baker to let liberal media representatives who clearly favor Kerry to be the moderator of all of the debates and frame (or pick and approve in Gibson's case) all of the questions. Tremendous advantage for Kerry. If Kerry wins the election which it appears to me he may well do, bad work by Jim Baker in negotiating the debate terms turns out to be the reason.

27 posted on 10/14/2004 5:43:05 AM PDT by David
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To: NotchJohnson

This is a surprisingly ignorant analysis. Why on earth would you even have a debate in the first place if by conducting a simple poll on any given issue, you can determine the winner before the debate even starts. Well we know that the majority of Americans trust the president's foreign policy over Kerry's "plan".

So by Neal's logic, no matter what happened in that first debate Bush won because he argued the majority position? Forgive me but this is just stupid. Kerry clearly won the first debate and unfortunately he was so much more effective than the president, he actually CHANGED peoples' minds. We all saw the swing in the polls.

the president, by contrast, really killed Kerry last night. Who cares what people thought going into last night, I think his performance changed some minds and I think we'll see that reflected in the polls in the next few days (so long as the Republicans can get their act together and really start pulling together an effective post-debate spin... something they don't have now). You can't just say that someone wins a debate based on pre-debate polls. That's just plain stupid.


28 posted on 10/14/2004 5:43:15 AM PDT by MMkennedy
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To: NotchJohnson

Before we all get a knickers in a twist over this, I think you should know the following:

Boortz will be voting for President Bush because of the War On Terror. He believes--like most of us--that John Kerry is too incompetent to run an effect WOT.

Boortz has been talking about this very thing on his radio show for years. The person that "gives you more for doing less" will always win with the average American whose needy. John Kerry promises everything under the sun. No Republican can compete with that. And it would be shameful if that Republican tried.

Boortz has been railing against the Democrats almost everyday. If you can, tune in.


29 posted on 10/14/2004 5:44:17 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Pi R squared? Nooo! Pie R round, Cornbread R squared!)
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To: MMkennedy
If you have ever listened to Neal Boortz, you'll know he's right.

John Kerry "won" last night with the folks that "want more government freebies for doing less". He won that constituency hands down.
30 posted on 10/14/2004 5:46:23 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Pi R squared? Nooo! Pie R round, Cornbread R squared!)
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To: MoJo2001

I don't think anyone questions Boortz's commitment to conservatism, but I definitely question his analysis. I think it was pretty weak.


31 posted on 10/14/2004 5:47:19 AM PDT by MMkennedy
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To: NotchJohnson
The person with the anti-choice position will be the winner ... period.

That's "pro-life" to you, Neal.

32 posted on 10/14/2004 5:47:57 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: wideawake
Sounds like Mr. Boortz is an abortion fan.

Nope. What you are seeing here is pure sarcasm. Neal is a pro at it and Kerry is skewered like a fish on a pike, cooking over a fire.

A 'room full of Catholics' faithful to the Pope's position on abortion, knowing the euphemism 'anti-choice' will do exactly the opposite and vote against Mr. Abortion on November 2.

33 posted on 10/14/2004 5:48:03 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: NotchJohnson

Kerry lost the respect of many people when he made the cheap shot about Cheney's daughter. Just like his ambulance-chasing running mate Breck Boy did. And Mary Beth Cahill showed the world what kind of person she is when she declared Cheney's daugher "Fair Game".

john


34 posted on 10/14/2004 5:49:09 AM PDT by init6
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To: wideawake
Boortz is libertarian. Of course he's pro-abortion.

Abortion is a sacrament to Libertarians.

35 posted on 10/14/2004 5:49:34 AM PDT by sinkspur ("If you disagree with me, you are a heretic. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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To: MoJo2001

In a side note, Dick Morris, a big Bush supporter said that Kerry won the debate also, but that was because it played into the Democrats traditional strong point. Morris also stated that Bush did better than anyone could have thought and that he was by far the better choice. I think that there might be a theory out there that because the instant tracking poll says Kerry won, thanks DU, that it makes us look like partisan when we claim that Bush won.


36 posted on 10/14/2004 5:50:17 AM PDT by jrsdls
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To: MMkennedy

Did you read rest of Neal's Nuze? THat would have been nice if someone had posted it as well. Go read it.


37 posted on 10/14/2004 5:50:26 AM PDT by MoJo2001 (Pi R squared? Nooo! Pie R round, Cornbread R squared!)
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To: sinkspur
Abortion is a sacrament to Libertarians.

Oh.

I guess shoving a pair of surgical scissors into the base of somebody's skull isn't an "initiation of force."

38 posted on 10/14/2004 5:50:58 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: NotchJohnson
Boortz IS PRO ABORTION, he is a Libertarian and that is one of their tenants, i.e. the "Government" has no place regulating a"bortz"ion. (No Laws, No Morals = No Country). NEAL (try Niel) refuses to acknowledge or discuss the matter on his program. There was no need for BOREtz to bring "Catholics" into this debate to support his position. And, in the latter respect, he is no better than Kerry or Edwards who brought Chaney's daughter into the debate.

The Degenerat master debaters have no business bringing a private individual into the debates. Regardless of their views, Chaney's daughter has a right to privacy which the Dems do not respect. She is not a public figure, her father is - no excuse & BOORISH or is that BOORTZISH now?

39 posted on 10/14/2004 5:51:11 AM PDT by Henchman (Kerry: No guts, No Glory, No way!)
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To: David
I thought Kerry knew the questions that were coming before they were asked.

If he didn't know most of the questions before they were asked, he's a damned fool.

I knew most of the questions before they were asked -- and I don't know anyone in the media, either. Almost every question in these debates has been so predictable that any candidate who showed up unprepared to answer them shouldn't even be running for mayor of his hometown.

40 posted on 10/14/2004 5:51:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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