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What I don't get is the incongruency of women.

One one hand they have more now than they ever have - they are open to explore different careers, they can make a lot of money, etc. They have proven that they are just as tough as any man in the work environment.

Yet, some of those same women seem to wilt if the conversation becomes off-color, or boorish. In times like this they revert to a 16th century 'delicate flower' posture - 'offended' by an off the cuff remark so much as to find the entire environement somewhat 'hostile' to them.

It's ironic that I think the average woman of the 1840s and 1950s, for example, appears to have been a whole lot tougher in matters like this. If a man began acting significantly less than a gentleman, a woman would quickly put him in place with a slap, and otherwise tell him that if he kept it up her brothers, boyfrined, or husband would come by and kick the crap out of him. Seems to me the pre-feminist woman handled these things a lot better.

You've come a long way, baby - wilting at the mention of a pee pee, pubic hair on a soda bottle, or heaven forbid, "I would have had a lot of fun with you two back in college!"

If a man began acting significantly less than a gentleman, a woman would quickly put him in place with a slap, and otherwise tell him that if he kept it up her brothers, boyfrined, or husband would come by and kick the crap out of him. Seems to me the pre-feminist woman handled these things a lot better.

You see that attitude in BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA. Francis Ford Coppola went to great lengths, doing much research and even couching the extras, to create a proper Victorian atmosphere regarding sex.

When Dracula (Gary Oldman) follows Mina (Winona Ryder) on the street, trying to talk to her, Mina indignantly asks, "Shall I call the police? Shall I tell my husband?"

Dracula replies, "Husband! Forgive me, I did not know. I shall bother you no further."

There you go again, Hitman. You possess uncanny insight into matters concerning relationships between men and women. I'm moving to Las Vegas in the Spring. Ready to start production on the show? :o)

It's ironic that I think the average woman of the 1840s and 1950s, for example, appears to have been a whole lot tougher in matters like this. If a man began acting significantly less than a gentleman, a woman would quickly put him in place with a slap, and otherwise tell him that if he kept it up her brothers, boyfrined, or husband would come by and kick the crap out of him. Seems to me the pre-feminist woman handled these things a lot better.

Hell, that's how I handled things all weekend.

It's ironic that I think the average woman of the 1840s and 1950s, for example, appears to have been a whole lot tougher in matters like this. If a man began acting significantly less than a gentleman, a woman would quickly put him in place with a slap, and otherwise tell him that if he kept it up her brothers, boyfrined, or husband would come by and kick the crap out of him. Seems to me the pre-feminist woman handled these things a lot better.

You are correct, but remember that up until recently, men were taught not to curse or discuss certain subjects in mixed company. A man who did so was deemed disrespectful to women. There are still laws on the books against cursing in the presence of women and children. It was part and parcel of being a gentleman, which is what most men wanted to be and what society expected them to be.

If a man began acting significantly less than a gentleman, a woman would quickly put him in place with a slap, and otherwise tell him that if he kept it up her brothers, boyfrined, or husband would come by and kick the crap out of him.

That's always the problem with the hypothetical scenerio. The brother/father/boyfriend/husband is always able to kick the offenders ass in these scenerios. In real life, I saw two brothers, big guys even, learn a lesson in pain, blood and humility when the biker they were going to teach a lesson for comments to their sister literally tore them up swinging a heavy belt buckle.

Then to add insult to injury, the brothers were arrested in the ER for coming after the guy in the first place. The whole incident was a recurring party joke for at least a year.

Best that the gentle people remember that they're gentle people and not try to be badasses.