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Courting of Jewish vote reaches a critical phase (Holbrooke praises Bush!!)
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/10/27/courting_of_jewish_vote_reaches_a_critical_phase/ ^

Posted on 10/28/2004 9:05:26 AM PDT by hipaatwo

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. -- These days, it is rare to hear advisers to John F. Kerry praise President Bush over any foreign policy issue, especially in a hotly contested battleground just days before the election. But the subject of Israel brought out the bipartisan side of Kerry adviser Richard Holbrooke here on Sunday -- to the delight of his mostly Jewish audience. ''I'm not here to criticize President Bush,"

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1 posted on 10/28/2004 9:05:27 AM PDT by hipaatwo
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To: hipaatwo

I am so glad that they applauded at that line!


2 posted on 10/28/2004 9:06:46 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: saveliberty

'She said she knows deep in her heart what kind of man John Kerry is.
"I would call him pro-peace, not pro-Israel," Ms. Ted Kennedy (D,MA) insisted.'
Arab American wife of Ted Kennedy stumps for Kerry
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PARTIAL LIST OF ISLAMIC TERRORIST ACTIVITIES

1968 Robert Kennedy assassinated
1972 Munich Olympics Sep-5,1972 (Black September)
1976 Entebbe Hostage Crisis, June 27, 1976
1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, Nov. 4, 1979 444 days
1979 Grand Mosque Seizure, Nov 20,1979
1981 Assassination of Egyptian President, Oct 6,1981
1982 Assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister, Sept 14, 1982
1983 Bombing of US Embassy in Beirut6, April 18,1983
1983 Bombing of Maring Barricks, Beruit, Oct 23,1983
1984 Hizballah Restaurant Bombing, April 12,1984
1985 Egyptian Airliner Hijacking, Nov 23,1985
1985 Rome Airport murders
1985 TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver murdered
1985 Achille Lauro hijacking, Homacidal maniac lived in saddams Iraq
1986 Aircraft Bombing in Greece, March 30, 1986
1988 Pan Am 747 Flight 103 Bombing, Lockerbie, 100's murdered
1988 Berlin Discoteque Bombing, Dec 21,1988
1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000
2001 4 Commercial airliners hijacked, 250+ murdered
2001 World Trade Center attacked, 2800+ murdered
2001 Flight 93 murders
2001 Pentagon attacked, 180+ murdered
2002 Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and murdered
2002 Philippines American missionary, Filipino nurse killed
2002 July 4, El Al attack Los Angeles LAX, several murdered
2002 Bali bombing - 200 dead, 300 injured
2002 Yemen, French Oil Tanker attacked
2002 Marines attacked / murdered in Kuwait
2002 Washington D.C. sniper
2002 Russian Theater attacked, 100+ dead
2002 Nigerian riots against Miss World Pageant, 200 dead, dozens injured
2002 Mombasa Hotel Attacked, 12 dead, dozens injured
2002 Israeli Boeing 757 attacked by missiles, fortunately no one injured
2002 August Hotel bombing in Jakarta, Indonesia. 12 dead, dozens injured.
2003 Rusian concert bombing
2003 Phillipines airport and market bombing
2003 Foiled SAM plot in the USA
2003 UN Baghdad HQ Bombing
on and on and on and on their terrorism has gone .........



3 posted on 10/28/2004 9:10:42 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Cuius rei demonstrationem mirabilem sane detexi hanc marginis exiguitas non caperet.)
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To: hipaatwo
Richard Holbrooke is a Dimocrat shill and bad mouths Republicans whenever he is given air time.

He's been promised a job in the Kerry administration that will never be.

Just another sleeze bag enemy Dimocrat Party operative with a red X on his forehead.

4 posted on 10/28/2004 9:14:21 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: G.Mason

Ah! Both parties pander to the ethnic minority vote and Kennedy's wife's ethnicity is no more important that Kerry's Jewishness. I keep hearing about the "Jewish" vote, the "Arab" vote, the "Cuban" vote, the "Mexican" vote, etc.... Is this country so far gone that its inhabitants can't just be Americans? If not, maybe the Scottish, German, French, Russian, English, Australian and Irish votes should be separately sought. Yeah! How do you feel about Scotland breaking off from her English oppressors? Whatever America's position should determine my vote? For goodness sake, my people left there 300 years ago! And if you support the Queen's thoroughbreds, I can't vote for y'all!


5 posted on 10/28/2004 9:29:07 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: Diogenesis

I was thinking something similar: that you understand who a person is by their friends. I would have included France (who has been invading African countries and supporting islamofascist regimes) and Germany (conveniently forgetting history) as the rise of anti Semitism and support for fascism is very disturbing. I am also at the point in which I am thinking that there is synergy among fascism, socialism and anti semitism. If a party demonizes those who have or have earned money, how can you stop the hate from spilling over into ideas or places the left promises not to return to? But return they do.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 9:29:58 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: followerofchrist

Also Kerry has been caught by the left leaning Boston Globe as having pretended to be Irish for 20 years. It's sad when the liberals in your home state won't cover for one of their own.


7 posted on 10/28/2004 9:31:58 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: followerofchrist
" Both parties pander to the ethnic minority vote ... "

Outlaw pandering to any one group, and begin to address us all as Americans.

Tell those that don't like it to go to pound sand, or whatever it is they pound.

8 posted on 10/28/2004 10:02:11 AM PDT by G.Mason (A war mongering, UN hating, military industrial complex loving, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
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To: saveliberty

Is Kerry part Irish? Being part Jewish doesn't erase his other heritage. Unless it is ketchup rather than blood that runs through his veins. Maybe he's a "Heinz-7." Just curious. Do the Jews here get that one?


9 posted on 10/29/2004 9:32:05 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: saveliberty

Germany hasn't forgotten history. They have become Marxist-pacifists because of it. Only in America does one become pro-terrorist when they are pacifist. I am as close to a pacifist as one can get, probably because of my still-strong Mennonite heritage. I wouldn't think that way except that all of my distant cousins, who I recently contacted with because of geneological research, have nearly identical political/war views. My own Swiss-German ancestors (founders and builders of this country) were called pro-Nazi (and harassed, and interned) because they refused to go to war. They were called pro-England when they refused to fight on the side of the rebels during the Revolutionary War. Before America, they dealt with the same kind of crud. They put their faith in God alone and I respect them for their courage. Now they are thought of as pro-Islamic because they refuse to fight this war. God bless them, because they have always known only Jesus can straighten this mess out.


10 posted on 10/29/2004 9:52:47 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: followerofchrist

Sorry for the confusion. You are right, but he is not Irish and Jewish, he now says he is Jewish and not Irish.

Here's the rest of the story. Over 20 years ago that he lied to the press and the people of Massachusetts that he was Irish. Every Irish event, he would holler how Irish he was. He did this for more than 20 years.

When he decided to run for president, he suddenly discovered that he was Jewish and denied that he had ever claimed that he was Irish. The left wing rag The Boston Globe called him on the lying business, which is the only issue here.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 10:21:06 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: followerofchrist

I respect your experience and come from a more direct German heritage -- I have a parent that was from Germany. I am very clear on people jumping to the wrong conclusions. My grandfather was arrested for not joining the NSDAP, which translated is the National Socialist Democratic Workers Party.

From my direct experience when visiting Germany, it was very clear that there is a) an intense need to control b) a more established class warfare mentality c) a taboo to talk about the Third Reich and what happened as it was so painful and there is absolutely no understanding that the Germans cannot expect empathy from non German victims of the holocaust. Because it's not been talked about much, because there is a lot of finger pointing to the Germans, there is an equal and opposited reaction of denial about the holocaust and frustration that they don't get off the subject outside of Germany. Diplomatically, Germans do not know how to listen well enough to resolve emotional conflicts with others. Trust me, there are nice Germans, but listening comprehension is in big trouble in their diplomatic circles.

d) World wide there is little to no understanding of the closeness that there was to the policies of fascist Germany and old style communist countries. Each demonized and yet worshiped money. Each hunted down the alleged perpetrators who had it not as individuals, but by class. It was only a matter of time that hatred of money translated into anti semitism as money was dirty and finance was almost all that Jews were allowed to do. Note how feudal the concept. This certainly explains the appeal France, Belgium and Germany have to the islamofascists.

Back to Germany in the 30s -- Nazis did badly whenever the econony started to rise. When the austrian tyrant seized power in 33, the first thing he did was to arrest the socialist leaders. So he could go after their party members' votes. And this is what he did.

Anyway, back to Germany today--Nazism was deminimus about 1% until reunification. When the East Germans were liberated, while they had gone through hell and back, came away with an ongoing hatred of those who hold or earn cash. Add to it the socialist policies that caused the economy to take a huge nosedive and the offer from Saddam (who modeled himself after Hitler) to sell cheap oil and perhaps buy military products (yes, there were many German companies on the oil for food list) And there it is


12 posted on 10/29/2004 10:43:52 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: followerofchrist

I am half Croation by ethnicity and Bush has my vote!!!

V V Camp Enari


13 posted on 10/29/2004 10:50:59 AM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68
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To: saveliberty

I know many Jews who are PART Jewish, which doesn't make them "Jewish." A friend of mine said he was of the English aristocracy. Maybe he was that when he ran for office the first time. Maybe he'll try and be Lebanese to court the Nader vote. He can't get away with saying he's black or he would!


14 posted on 10/30/2004 9:17:28 AM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: followerofchrist

No question. But it only became an issue because Kerry suddenly discovered that he had some Jewish forebears. Kind of like Hillary remembering a Jewish step grandfather only after she had spent more than 20 years bashing Israel and supporting Palestinian radicals (historians say that this was non negotiable for her). Neither of them appear to really mean it. I could find a little respect for either of them if they really meant that they were believers.


15 posted on 10/30/2004 10:23:22 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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