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Detecting Vote Fraud: The FReeper Analytical Team
Hopefully multiple | 11/2/04 | Carry_Okie

Posted on 11/02/2004 4:25:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie

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To: Carry_Okie
Very interesting.

What I find amazing as well is how consistent the GOP numbers are in terms of turnout between 2002 and 2000 and the way the rats fluctuate wildly by 100K+ votes in the the tri county area.

Where did all those rats get too?

21 posted on 11/02/2004 4:47:43 PM PST by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!)
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To: Bob J

I guess I should flag you, sorry. :-p


22 posted on 11/02/2004 4:48:30 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I agree. That Sore/Looserman sign and the folks holding them will not be forgotten soon by those who sought to pilfer that election.


23 posted on 11/02/2004 4:50:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Carry_Okie

My kind regards to you and yours.


24 posted on 11/02/2004 4:52:08 PM PST by backhoe ("We meet at Dawn- destiny Awaits...")
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To: All

I'd like to flag this analysis. This should be interesting....

Diebold voting machines benchmarked
By Jason Pippin: Tuesday 02 November 2004, 08:55
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19418

TYPICALLY, benchmarks are used by us to determine the merits of a piece of computer hardware. Benchmarks tell us the Intel Extreme Graphics and AMD's Athlon XP lineup are obsolete at best, and deceptive marketing at worst.

What I am going to try to do is benchmark Diebold's voting machines.

Assuming that Diebold voting machines have a random dispersion, county by county in the clearly undecided states, the vote tallies from Diebold counties should closely match the state's voting percentages as a whole.

Just as The INQ called foul on Extreme Graphics and Athlon XP's later "optimistic" model numbering scheme, the goal here is to call foul on another computer, if it happens to have some sort of odd floating point error.

Test Setup
One Presidential election
The candidate States, in no particular order, abbreviated for, um, brevity
WA, OR, NV, AZ, CO, NM, MN, IA, MO,WI, MI, OH, PA, NJ, NH, FL, HI

Now, some of these states, such as Washington and Oregon, do not use Diebold touch screen voting in any county, but are swing states and help establish our baseline.


The Island of the United States

In other states, such as Michigan, each polling place can have a mix of machines, where touchscreens are only made available to provide for disabled voters. Disturbingly, Michigan has have little information available about their voting machines in general, which may preclude their, um, inclusion in our benchmarking suite.

The excluded states, such as Georgia, are poor choices for the benchmark for several reasons. Georgia is in fact a perfect case example. Georgia is both strongly Republican and exclusively Diebold, which would dramatically skew our results. We are looking for deviation from a statistical average and the bell curve differences, if there are any, between Diebold voting machines and other voting systems.

Results
Well, that's for the US citizens to decide today and it will take me a bit of time to sift the data. If the Diebold counties deviate significantly from the average, then we can make the assumption the Diebold has a floating point error of a bit greater magnitude than FDIV, or that the distribution of Diebold's voting machines is not random. Either would be a bit disturbing.

Happy Voting! [PS, I am an American citizen old enough to vote, so leave me alone] µ


25 posted on 11/02/2004 4:54:17 PM PST by mpreston
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To: Carry_Okie

This is a super idea.


26 posted on 11/02/2004 4:56:09 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Carry_Okie

BTTT!


27 posted on 11/02/2004 4:58:10 PM PST by bd476
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To: hedgetrimmer
Thanks.

If we're the new media, then it's up to us to do the job.

28 posted on 11/02/2004 4:59:41 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: mpreston
Did you see this?
29 posted on 11/02/2004 5:04:32 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Sweatin' this one.

From the People's Republic of Maryland (the Land of Peasant Living). 'Pod.


30 posted on 11/02/2004 5:05:01 PM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: backhoe; Carry_Okie

Is there an archive on the Telequest/Essar thing from the 2000 election? I was reviewing my files on that last night.


31 posted on 11/02/2004 5:08:33 PM PST by Fedora
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To: sauropod
Sweatin' this one.

Stop sweatin' . Fox just called Maryland for Kerry and gave the senate to the fat socialist.

32 posted on 11/02/2004 5:14:56 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: Fedora
Here is what I found in the FR Archive.
33 posted on 11/02/2004 5:19:14 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Fedora
Telequest/Essar thing from the 2000 election

Rings a vague bell... tell you what- I have to bed down the house in a few minutes, but will undoubtedly be up early- I'll try to remember to look into it then.

34 posted on 11/02/2004 5:20:08 PM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: lainie; BurbankKarl; Bonaparte; Nick Danger
How's about a thread on fraudulent newscasts ala Jennings, Koppel and Stephanopoulus?

They're smug liars, they're certain liars, and they are sickening liars.

35 posted on 11/02/2004 5:25:49 PM PST by bd476
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To: Carry_Okie; backhoe
Thanks! Here's one old thread I've been reviewing, though I'm having a hard time getting the link to work now (I have it copied so I know it's there, just not sure how to access it):

Telegate- The Latest!- Warning- Long download!

This one's working and has a lot of the same info:

Downside Legacy on THE RECOUNT to 12/2/00 (Caution: Large)

This article's also interesting:

Ryan Lizza, "HOW THE GORE CAMPAIGN CAME BACK FROM THE DEAD. Overtime"

36 posted on 11/02/2004 5:33:34 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Carry_Okie

No, but it's wrong for my county. We used paper. So much for the accuracy of that site.


37 posted on 11/02/2004 5:39:35 PM PST by mpreston
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To: Carry_Okie

I'm copying a post I made earlier this evening to another thread, because it also belongs here:


Not a bad day. Started at 0700, got a little lunch at 1230, when the crowds let up (steady from 0700 to 1230). Slowed down in the afternoon (most votes in the afternoon were democrat; the Republicans were working...) Got relieved at 1700.

Of 1000 registered voters, about 700 had voted by 1700. Votes cast were 280 R, 295 D, 125 Ind. (most Independents vote Republican.)

Got home and hit the phone until 1900 and called it quits. Polls close at 2000 EST (four minutes from now.)

Had no problems at the polling place. Turned away maybe two dozen people who were not properly registered to vote at this place. No one went high order on us (one lady got pissed because they kept sending her to different places.)

BTW, ALL voters had to show photo ID and sign their voting card. Those who had done everything right but the paperwork had not come through, got to fill in a fail-safe ballot (if all checks out, the vote is counted.)

I started changing the democrat battle cry (Let every vote be counted!) to "Let every honest vote be counted!"

Someone sent me a Churchill quote tonight that I feel compelled to post for others:

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
- Winston Churchill, 1874 - 1965

The only real concern I had today was about the effect the "motor voter" laws have on voter regisitration fraud. Once an illegal or felon goes to get his/her driver's license, and gets "registered to vote" automatically, all the checks afterwards mean nothing. We only ask for a driver's license to confirm identity.

What are the rules regarding "motor-voter" registration? Are the states required to establish citizenship before registering a driver-voter? Is it up to the states to decide this?

Any information would be helpful, especially if we can come up with a campaign to stop illegals or felons from getting the vote.


38 posted on 11/02/2004 6:04:33 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: lancer
Are the states required to establish citizenship before registering a driver-voter?

From what I understand, requirements vary, hence the initiative in Arizona.

Is it up to the states to decide this?

Yes.

39 posted on 11/02/2004 6:17:24 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
I heard a lady named Bev Harris from an organization called Black Box Voting being interviewed by Jim Bohannon on insomniac radio about 4:00 this morning. She was covering vulnerabilities of electronic voting, so you might find this interesting.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

40 posted on 11/02/2004 6:18:00 PM PST by FlyVet
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