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Press: Specter claims press lied about judges
me | 11/4/04 | ME

Posted on 11/04/2004 9:28:08 AM PST by Bungarian

Rush says Spector claims the press misrepresented what he said about the Supreme Court judges and will issue a statement latter.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: judges; specter; took36hourstodeny
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To: Bungarian

MSM abortion trap ahead


61 posted on 11/04/2004 10:27:59 AM PST by snooker (Bush 2004 --- stay with the strong horse)
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To: snooker

Knock it off. Specter has a history of this stuff. Don't help the guy do damage control.


62 posted on 11/04/2004 10:32:05 AM PST by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: Bungarian

Don't believe it! Specter is ungrateful (Bush campaigned for him!) and unfaithful (remember his impeachment votes).


63 posted on 11/04/2004 10:38:10 AM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: wallcrawlr

hasnt he (specter) called and used Rushs show before to refute the very words he's(specter) said that got him in trouble with conservatives.

I remember it happening earlier this year I think."


YES!!!

Arlen called Rush 2 weeks before the primary.

Rush let him gab and took it hook,line, sinker. Didnt even have Toomey on to counter Arlen's lines.

Since that was an extremely close primary, you can conclude that it was conservative support that saved Arlen's job: Rush, Santorum ,etc. Without them, it would be Senator Hoeffel or Sen Toomey today.


64 posted on 11/04/2004 10:53:30 AM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: capitan_refugio; Bungarian
Don't believe it! Specter is ungrateful (Bush campaigned for him!) and unfaithful (remember his impeachment votes).

The Senate was not going to convict Clinton without a third of the DemocRAT members voting to convict. Considering that all the Senate DemocRATS stuck together and voted not to convict, the less conservative Republicans in the Senate were not about to vote for conviction. Who knows how he would have voted if there were 66 votes to convict.

65 posted on 11/04/2004 10:57:50 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Spiff
Spector is a liar. The (liberal) Pittsburgh Post-Gazette endorsed him "Before the Post-Gazette editorial board, he promised that no extremists would be approved for the bench."

Isn't it funny how liberals get to choose the terms that tilts the debate automatically to their conclusions?

I dont support extremists on the bench either ... but to me, Scalia is not one, and Ruth Bader Ginsberg is. I oppose human cloning, except in the case of Antonin Scalia.

66 posted on 11/04/2004 10:58:07 AM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: Bungarian

Why not make a statement right now?


67 posted on 11/04/2004 10:59:41 AM PST by ampat
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To: colorado tanker

Actually, Bork's defeat gave us Anthony Kennedy, a good judge but not even close to Bork as a heavyweight.
Moreover, Kennedy gave us Lawrence v Texas and voted pro-Roe-v-Wade on abortion cases ... so that certainly made a big difference.

we have only 3 reliable conservatives on the court: Scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist. 4 liberals - SOUTER IS ONE OF THEM.

We cannot afford to screw around and screw up our USSC nominations. Souter was a complete and total blunder, that was Warren Rudman's doing.


68 posted on 11/04/2004 11:01:40 AM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

"Considering that all the Senate DemocRATS stuck together and voted not to convict, the less conservative Republicans in the Senate were not about to vote for conviction. "

Why not? If he made some political calculation in his vote, that makes it worse. I trust he voted his conscience on impeachment, however weird it is to invoke Scottish law in the U.S. Senate.


69 posted on 11/04/2004 11:04:35 AM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: WOSG
Why not? If he made some political calculation in his vote, that makes it worse.

If political calculation were not intended to part of the Senate's role in deciding to convict an impeached official, why is it decided by the Senate at all? Why not a panel of judges?

70 posted on 11/04/2004 11:10:32 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

"Why not a panel of judges?"

For purposes of impeachment, the Senate *is* a panel of Judges.

The Framers set it up that way, concluding properly that this was a legislative check on executive power.

In an ideal world, senators are *always* voting for what they believe is best and correct, and not what is popular or will help them politically. But I know that is not the case in many situations.


71 posted on 11/04/2004 11:15:10 AM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: WOSG
Ooops. You're right. It was the original Borking that later led to the nomination of stealth Souter to avoid another one.

It's just ridiculous that we have 7 or 9 Republican judges on that court and get these kind of decisions.

72 posted on 11/04/2004 11:16:10 AM PST by colorado tanker ("medals, ribbons, we threw away the symbols of what our country gave us and I'm proud of that")
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To: WOSG
Why not? If he made some political calculation in his vote, that makes it worse. I trust he voted his conscience on impeachment, however weird it is to invoke Scottish law in the U.S. Senate.

The reason they could not get the votes, is the senate would not let the House present the evidence. Every Senator took a special oath to convene the impeachment, then broke that oath as easily as you might open a door.

The Supreme Court Justice did a cowardly job as well, abandoning his duty as presiding authority.

73 posted on 11/04/2004 11:46:00 AM PST by itsahoot (Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it makes a difference, but not often.)
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To: WOSG
4 liberals - SOUTER IS ONE OF THEM.

Souter is by far the best liberal on the court. He's a decent fellow. If there were 5 of him on the SCOTUS, it would not be a disaster. It would not be good for conservative moral judicial activism, but the country would be fine.

74 posted on 11/04/2004 11:53:01 AM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Admin Moderator

Clean UP aisle three!

Headline incorrect: Can you help?


75 posted on 11/04/2004 11:54:17 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: xm177e2

"the best liberal on the court"

That's an oxymoron.

The 'liberals' on thecourt are ALL judicial activists and they ALL have voted in ways that are simply WRONG for the constitution and our country.

None of them are any good.

The only judges who are real solid on the USSC are scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist... all the rest insert various levels of inappropriate personal philosophy into their rulings.
All the rest incorrectly utilize the absurd folly of "substantive due process" another oxymoron, to enforce their social agenda on the people.


"conservative moral judicial activism" another oxymoronic phrase ... consevatives dont want judicial activism, we want the courts to STOP interfering through legislating from the bench and mis-interpreting the constitution.


76 posted on 11/04/2004 11:59:18 AM PST by WOSG (George W Bush / Dick Cheney - 4 MORE YEARS!)
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To: 26lemoncharlie
Arlen better get his ducks in a row, because rumor has it as soon as idiot Eddy is gone, so is Arlen via recall.

There is no provision for recalling US Senators.

77 posted on 11/04/2004 12:01:18 PM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah

Thank You, I told him in my email to him that we would recall him anyway. So to hell with it. I Guess I'lljust sh&t in a bag and send it to him.


78 posted on 11/04/2004 12:49:33 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Bungarian

Has anyone seen his "statement" yet?? Didn't think so.


79 posted on 11/04/2004 12:50:37 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: af_vet_1981
The MSM has an agenda to divide us.

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This cannot be repeated enough or too loudly. Everyone: the left is going to harp on every separate single issue you, I and all of us hold dear. They will do everything to defame our bench and stall our agenda.

Believe nothing until you have checked it out exhaustively. If it is true, check the context. Pay attention to the messenger. There are people included on our side who are on their own side. Single issue conservatives will be the 1st targets and moderates and former Dems will be another, but every segment of our base will be singled out for this treatment.

There will be superficially attractive 3rd party candidates galore, so be on your guard. If they can marginalize us, they win and take control. They are already saying they will be back. Believe them. They mean it.
80 posted on 11/04/2004 12:53:10 PM PST by reformedliberal
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