[Shethink13]

You are falling for the MSM abortion trap. Hook line and sinker.

What's the goal?

And you are falling for the Sphincter "bait-and-switch". Arlen is a low-life scumbag. The only reason he squeaked through the primary against Toomey was because of the President's support. I know this for a fact, because I have talked to people who don't know better who said they were voting for him because of Bush's support.

Specter won his Senate race by about 11% of the vote, but Bush lost by 2%. Never ONCE, did Specter return the favor of trying to help Bush get elected. The Bush team even mentioned Specter's name at every campaign stop in PA (amid boo's by loyal supporters). Believe me, he said this and he meant it.

The only reason you're hearing a different story now is because people have been burning up the phones, faxes and e-mails in Frist's office and he's been told to back off. This is CYA time for Specter.

So, what's your goal?

[snooker]

Nope I actually agree with most everything being said on this thread. Spector is an abomination. Surprised, I actually agree with exactly what you say about Spector and then more :). You sure Spector's phones, or anyone else's are burning up?

But it's for sure the MSM is doing something and it's not to make Conservatives look good. The MSM is counting on us doing precisely what you advocate doing. Sometimes a less direct approach results in a win.

I just prefer winning now, instead of losing. That includes on the issue of abortion.

[snooker]

Sigh, I actually completely agree with you about Spector.

Winning this issue -- not arguing is my single goal. The public and the arena of ideas is the battleground. That is where we have to win.

But we cannot deny the MSM still holds sway with the public and waving the Roe v Wade flag in the publics' face is the MSM's game. Reality, we need to deal with it, and defeat it.

There is more at stake than just abortion, and making abortion a litmus test feeds the MSM monster and will defeat us in our quest. Strategery is required on judges.

I don't want to blow it with any Supreme nominees.

[WillRain]

IMO that's the one major political blunder for the Rove team this year (well, actually one of two)...thye picked the wrong horse when the backed Specter and underestimated his duplicity.

If Santorum could win in PA, toomey could have too with Rick's backing.

Backing specter would have been okay if they'd got a commitment he would keep on backing bush's judges, but they ought to have know he was a double-crosser.