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The fallacy that New York State is a Blue state.

Posted on 11/04/2004 7:39:21 PM PST by mlstier

Looking at the 2004 Presidential election county-by-county map, I noticed that most of New York State is red.

I decided to crunch the number, and realized that:

1) Kerry won New York State 59/41
2) Kerry won New York City 75/25
3) Kerry won New York State (sans the NYC metropolatin area) by only 50.5/49.5. (Just the flip of the national split.)

As the complete county-by-county map proves. Liberalism, as enspoused by the Democrats, only thrives in metropolatin cites like Boston/NYC/Philly/DC/LA/SF.

New York City Metro area: Manhattan, Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, Westchester, Nassau


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Inland Californians should move to the coast to overwhelm the liberals.


41 posted on 11/04/2004 8:10:42 PM PST by FairOpinion (Thank You Swifties and Vets for Fighting for your Country and Defeating the Enemy Again.)
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To: mlstier

Kind or ironic that the terrorist want to destroy those cities and the only thing standing between them and that goal is GWB.


42 posted on 11/04/2004 8:11:12 PM PST by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: mlstier

Which brings up an interesting question. OK, maybe it isn't so interesting, but it is a question. If all states divided up their electors according to the popular vote, how would it have changed the electoral college this time around?


43 posted on 11/04/2004 8:13:32 PM PST by SWake ("Estrada was savaged by liars and abandoned by cowards." Mark Davis, WBAP, 09/09/2003)
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To: Samwise

LOL!

You can teach my kids!


44 posted on 11/04/2004 8:15:33 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (John Kerry--three fake Purple Hearts. George Bush--one real heart of gold.)
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To: kfowler1

"If you could show me a link to that map, I'd love it"

Here's where I found it.
web site link: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm

Image link:
http://images.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/elections2004/_images/2004countymap3.gif


45 posted on 11/04/2004 8:15:51 PM PST by edwin hubble
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To: BenLurkin
Exactly. The same is true in California.

Kerry won California by about 1 million. He won LA by 720,000, SF by 180,000, and Alameda by 220,000. This more than offset Bush winning most of the other counties in the state including San Diego, which Bush won by about 45,000 and Orange County by 155,000. What we are seeing is the Dems winning the urban areas and the Reps the suburbs and rural areas. Another reason why we need to keep the electoral college.

46 posted on 11/04/2004 8:23:57 PM PST by kabar
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To: kfowler1

The map was in Newsday today in the fold. I can't find it on the Newsday website but I will try to get in on one of my web pages for you over the weekend if you like. Can't do it tonight as I am exhausted. Let me know


47 posted on 11/04/2004 8:33:08 PM PST by Sparky760 (The sleeping Giant has been awakened)
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To: carlr

Not quite. Westchester, Rockland and Orange aren't exactly "upstate." Metro NYC outnumbers upstate by a considerable margin in terms of population.


48 posted on 11/04/2004 8:36:23 PM PST by Clemenza (Karl Rove IS Keyser Soze)
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To: Personal Responsibility

I doubt Lawn Guyland and Leftchester will ever switch back to the GOP unless a "moderate" like Giussolini is on the ticket.


49 posted on 11/04/2004 8:37:32 PM PST by Clemenza (Karl Rove IS Keyser Soze)
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To: Clemenza

I wonder how many of those Kerry votes in Nassau were doubles, dead people or illegal aliens. Where I live, the illegals and dead people get to vote, and vote often ;-)


50 posted on 11/04/2004 8:38:19 PM PST by cyborg
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To: FairOpinion
What amazes me, is that after 9-11 happened right in NYC, those same people wanted Kerry by such huge margin.

I think it has something to do with all those people piled up in such a small place. They suck too much oxygen out of the air and it results in serious brain damage.

51 posted on 11/04/2004 8:39:17 PM PST by McGavin999 (George Soros just learned a very expensive lesson-America can't be bought.)
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To: kabar

Seems like it would be VERY interesting to see voting habits per county broken down by population density. I'd like to see what the "critical mass" (rather, "critical density") is at which people lose all sanity and vote blue.

Anyone have raw data for the by-county breakdown of the '04 vote?


52 posted on 11/04/2004 8:42:14 PM PST by pcgTheDestroyer (THE RED SOX RULE THE WORLD! http://clownsofdeath.com/)
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To: pcgTheDestroyer
Here is the 2004 county by county breakdown from http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/state.php?year=2004&fips=36&f=0


53 posted on 11/04/2004 8:56:41 PM PST by qam1 (McGreevy likes his butts his way, I like mine my way - so NO SMOKING BANS in New Jersey)
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To: qam1

Thanks - I actually meant raw numbers that could be crunched. That site (uselectionatlas.org) sells the full dataset broken down by county for like $50... not sure JUST how curious I am... ;-)


54 posted on 11/04/2004 9:04:22 PM PST by pcgTheDestroyer (THE RED SOX RULE THE WORLD! http://clownsofdeath.com/)
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To: pcgTheDestroyer

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/NY/P/00/index.html


55 posted on 11/04/2004 9:18:57 PM PST by qam1 (McGreevy likes his butts his way, I like mine my way - so NO SMOKING BANS in New Jersey)
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According to the C-Span numbers, when I add them, in those 19 "Blue" states, Kerry won 28,192,306 votes, and Bush won 23,743,901. That's a 4,448,405 difference. In a voter turnout of over 110 million, that four million difference is FOUR PERCENT.

Kerry only "won" the "Blue" states BY FOUR PERCENT!!

So when Judy Woodruff gripes that Bush only won by four MILLION, remind her that ALL Kerry's 19 states were only won by four PERCENT!!


56 posted on 11/04/2004 9:46:06 PM PST by gentlestrength (are numbers left or right brain?)
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To: mlstier

mlstier,What about Pa-I am blue.


57 posted on 11/04/2004 9:50:25 PM PST by fatima (Rachael we love you and Baby Sara Have your baby today-due date Nov.11)
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To: mlstier

Not the Watertown area, but the pockets of blue in NYS were also in college towns. Unlike the midwest with landgrant colleges, NYS has several colleges spread throughout the state. Albany has RPI and SUNY Albany, Rochester has UofR, RIT, Nazareth, Ithaca Cornell and IC, St Lawrence County which went blue has Canton, Clarkson Potsdam and SLU. Syracuse has of course SU , Buffalo has UofB Canisius and Niagara. That is a large reason as to the blue status of these areas. The hinterlands of Upstate NY is basically unrecognizable from Indiana or Kentucky. That parts is as Red State as it comes.


58 posted on 11/04/2004 9:53:29 PM PST by L`enn
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To: carlr

The legend of Rockefeller lives on. That man did so much damage to the politics of this state it will be lasting for years. He was next in line behind Margaret Sanger and Roe v Wade in foisting abortion on the public. Taxes, he started the spiral that has never stopped. And he was the first RINO.


59 posted on 11/04/2004 9:56:01 PM PST by L`enn
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To: kfowler1
Newsday's center fold today had a town by town map of how Long Island voted. Their website doesn't have the map but they have the list of towns and how they voted. You can find it HERE. My town (Massapequa) went for Bush.
60 posted on 11/04/2004 9:59:25 PM PST by saquin
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