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The Democrats Didn’t Lose in this Election, They Won [not humor, moonbat claim: BIG WIN,WATCH OUT!!]
Emerging Democratic Majority ^ | 11/04/04 | John Belisarius

Posted on 11/05/2004 9:05:35 AM PST by conelrad

That’s right, they won.

And they won big.

No, it’s not just that Dems came within 3% of winning a very tough election. That alone is a very real and important accomplishment, but it’s not the key.

The real point is that if the Democrats are serious about the long-tem goal of building a broad and enduring democratic majority then getting 51% of the vote is not always the right test of a particular campaign’s success. Sometimes you have to lose an election to build the foundation for later victory.

Just ask the Conservative Republicans. They can recite you this lesson by heart. In every glowing account they write of their gradual rise to power they always point to Barry Goldwater’s unsuccessful 1964 campaign and Ronald Reagan’s 1976 bid for the Presidency (which did not get beyond the Republican primaries) as the pivotal campaigns that laid the foundations for all their subsequent victories.

And when you look at it from this point of view, the true scope, the genuinely impressive magnitude of the Democrats’ success this year can be expressed in a single sentence: In 2004 the Dems accomplished in 8 months what it took the Goldwater-Reagan conservative movement over a decade to achieve.

Last December, the Democratic party was internally divided, unsure about its message, uncertain how to talk about war and foreign affairs, financially dependent on donations from corporations and affluent donors and only beginning to build a grass-roots voter mobilization campaign. There was great anger and energy among the party’s core supporters, but it seemed extremely unlikely that the party as a whole would be able to agree upon a message, unite around a candidate and mount a serious challenge to a personally popular wartime president whose approval ratings hovered close to 60%.

Yet, by the time John Kerry addressed the Democratic convention in July, he was leading a political party that had become firmly united, was supported by new and powerful grass-roots mechanisms for fund raising and internet organizing (pioneered by Howard Dean and his supporters) and which was building a new voter mobilization network that was reconnecting the party with its political base.

Kerry and Edwards then provided the Democratic Party with a politically viable moderate-progressive message - one that had been eluding the party for years. In foreign affairs it combined basic patriotism and support for the troops with brutally sharp and honest criticism of the Administration’s disastrous foreign policy. In domestic affairs, it combined a cautious but sincere economic populism with greater fiscal responsibility then the Republican administration.

This political platform was sufficiently compelling to convince a large majority of those who watched the presidential debates that Kerry, not Bush, had been the victor of all three exchanges and to win him the support of a substantial majority of moderate and independent voters as well as his Democratic base.

Had the 2004 campaign halted at this point, the Kerry-Edwards campaign would have already accomplished more then the Goldwater-Reagan Republicans did from 1964 to 1976, but the campaign then pushed on to come within 3% of victory and a solid majority.

Sure, it was disappointing not to be able to snag those last few points, and the disappointment was compounded by the widespread feeling of optimism that lasted until the very last moments of election night.

But there is a vast difference between a vibrant and compelling campaign that doesn’t quite make it over the top and a campaign that is fundamentally a failure. The Dems have had more then a few of the latter kind, but 2004 wasn’t one of them.

“But we did worse then we did in 2000” people say, “We’re going backward, not forward”.

Nonsense. The truth is that in presidential elections the Democrats have basically been a minority party since 1968, when George Wallace cut deeply into the Dems blue-collar support in Michigan and the other industrial states as well as the South. In 1972, when the Republicans played the “Real Majority” vs. the “Elitists” game against the Dems for the first time, Nixon got 60% of the vote to McGovern’s 37%. Carter won a narrow victory in 1976 but look at the record since then.

1980 Jimmy Carter 41%   vs. Reagan+Anderson 57%
1984 Walter Mondale 41%   vs. Reagan 59%

1988 Michael Dukakis 46%   vs. Bush Sr. 53%
1992 Bill Clinton 43%   vs Bush+Perot 56%

Democrats never got anywhere even close to 50% of the vote until Clinton’s reelection campaign in 1996 (Clinton 49%, Dole/Perot 49%) and Gore’s 2000 run (Gore 48%, Bush 48%).

But in both of these latter campaigns the Democrats were running as incumbents or former Vice-Presidents, not as challengers. 2004 was the first time a Democrat ran as a challenger in more then a decade and Kerry faced a President who had, at the outset, high approval ratings, the patriotic fervor of an apparently successful war behind him, the overt support of one of the major TV networks, and the most extensive grass-roots voter mobilization the Republican Party had ever fielded.

And yet Kerry and Edwards came closer to unseating their opponent and closer to winning 50% of the vote then had any Democratic challengers in the last three decades.

A campaign like this simply can’t be considered a failure even by narrow electoral standards and the intangible benefits make it even less so. This political campaign made rank and file Democrats from every section of the party feel proud to be Democrats in a way they have not felt in decades. It displayed Democratic candidates who were decent, thoughtful and honorable men and offered a set of policies and positions that a wide range of Americans could accept as a solid framework and point of departure for the future. It showcased a political party that was systematically building the foundations for its future victory.

So shake off the disappointment and feel the sense of pride and accomplishment you deserve to feel instead.

The Dems lost an election. OK, it happens.

But the Dems haven’t been defeated, not at all.

They’ve just been slowed down.


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How to lie without statistics.
1 posted on 11/05/2004 9:05:35 AM PST by conelrad
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To: conelrad

LOL. This is the height of delusion. I just pray and hope they keep thinking like this.

They are descending, We are ascending. It couldn't be clearer until these guys look at it with there rose colored goggles.

Apparently the House and Senate is irrelevant in terms of power according to this hallucinating doofus.


2 posted on 11/05/2004 9:08:39 AM PST by Josh in PA
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To: conelrad

Sounds good but President Bush's vote % went up in 47 states, even in 3 and only down in 1 (Vermont).

Who's building what??


3 posted on 11/05/2004 9:08:46 AM PST by tx_eggman ("There is no safety for honest men but by believing all possible evil of evil men." --Edmund Burke)
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To: conelrad

they didnt win by any means, but there is truth to the fact that they did actually get some votes for once, BUT, they definetly did worse than in 2000, so to me, they still may have gotten more than in the past, but it looks like a decline from 2000. Ergo, I would call their status in decline not moving forward as the article suggests.


4 posted on 11/05/2004 9:09:56 AM PST by toledocon
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To: conelrad
The Dems took vast sums from shadowy billionaires, waged a war of dishonest media, propaganda films, absolutely insane rhetoric, protracted campaign season, political character assassination, and collusion with Leftists throughout the world, and this was the best they did. Their party is financially sound and morally, ethically, and intellectually bankrupt. If that's winning, I hope they keep it up.
5 posted on 11/05/2004 9:10:05 AM PST by atomicpossum (They pelted us with rocks and garbage.)
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To: conelrad

6 posted on 11/05/2004 9:10:17 AM PST by pabianice
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7 posted on 11/05/2004 9:10:20 AM PST by Prime Choice (The Democrats vowed 'no surrender.' It's time to make them wish they had.)
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To: conelrad

Bizzaroworld mentality.. loss is victory, white is black, dogs are cats..


8 posted on 11/05/2004 9:10:57 AM PST by miskie
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To: conelrad
Kerry faced a President who had, at the outset, high approval ratings, the patriotic fervor of an apparently successful war behind him, the overt support of one of the major TV networks, and the most extensive grass-roots voter mobilization the Republican Party had ever fielded.

"At the outset"---until ALL of the other major TV networks and ALL of the major newspapers united to give Kerry the most positive coverage any presidential candidate had EVER received. And he still lost.

9 posted on 11/05/2004 9:11:14 AM PST by John Thornton
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The thing is that the Democrats put forward EVERYTHING that they had, they shut down all internal opposition (Nader) and they still lost. Notice they left out 2000 numbers because it showed that Nader + Gore beat Bush.

Worse for them they aren't the type of people that are motivated by principle. They are "of the moment" and they'll have to be even MORE vitriolic for the next 4 years to keep the pot stirred; which will do nothing more than ensure our numbers match '04.

10 posted on 11/05/2004 9:12:40 AM PST by Naspino (Not creative enough to have a tagline.)
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To: conelrad
a politically viable moderate-progressive message

That's right. Just keep drinking the Kool Aid.

11 posted on 11/05/2004 9:13:13 AM PST by animoveritas (PA was closer than OH)
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To: conelrad

Say whatever you like, but please don't throw us into the briar patch.


12 posted on 11/05/2004 9:13:55 AM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party is pining for the fjords.)
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To: conelrad

Woa! It looks like somebody's been smokin' some bad weed!


13 posted on 11/05/2004 9:14:33 AM PST by Syco
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"The thing is that the Democrats put forward EVERYTHING that they had, they shut down all internal opposition (Nader) and they still lost. Notice they left out 2000 numbers because it showed that Nader + Gore beat Bush."

Esxactly, which goes to show they are on the decline, if anything up to 2000 was their climb, and then they fell, (right before the election in fact), now their tumbling down, my guess is theyll be right back to 40ish % in 2 years, whether they change that depends on the change in congress, and how much we continue to fight back.


14 posted on 11/05/2004 9:15:04 AM PST by toledocon
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To: conelrad
but the campaign then pushed on to come within 3% of victory and a solid majority.

First Liberal I've heard describe 51% as "a solid majority". I've heard everything but that the past two days.

15 posted on 11/05/2004 9:15:57 AM PST by kevao
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To: miskie
Bizzaroworld mentality.. loss is victory, white is black, dogs are cats..

...lies are truth, bad is good, evil is righteous.

16 posted on 11/05/2004 9:16:03 AM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party is pining for the fjords.)
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To: conelrad
Sometimes you have to lose an election to build the foundation for later victory.

First, I like your strategery. You just go tirht ahead and keep losing elections to build that majority.

But, I would like to point out to you that the South has completely written the Democratic party off. A grand strategy to build a majority will never be accomplished by a regional party, which is exactly what the Democrats have become.

17 posted on 11/05/2004 9:16:49 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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To: conelrad

May they continue to think they won all the debates and have profound moral victories like this one well into the future.


18 posted on 11/05/2004 9:18:04 AM PST by xp38
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To: conelrad
Several years ago I worked with a friend who referred to herself as a "good old Johnson Democrat". We were in a gun control discussion. Her comment was something like "we've got to do something, the death rate of children accidentally shooting themselves in the home is skyrocketing".
I excused myself and stepped back to my office and retrieved my 1992 (I believe) World Almanac. I looked under accidental deaths, in the home, due to firearms, by children. (This is from memory) - the numbers had been counted since around 1955, when something like 900 children were killed. The number for 1990 was around 250. I'll agree that 250 is 250 too many, but given that the population had increased by nearly 60%, and (by her own admission) the number of firearms had in citizens hands had also increased dramatically, the "rate" of children killed as a percent of population had gone through the floor. She said - and I quote - "That's not what that means". I put the book up, returned to work realizing that facts have no meaning at all to a true liberal.
19 posted on 11/05/2004 9:18:20 AM PST by GrandEagle
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This guy is an idiot. At least 40% of the Kerry vote was "I hate Bush and don't give a crap wh is elected" not "I love democraps!" These morons would have voted for Hitler if he was running against Bush.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 9:18:45 AM PST by Bommer (“ Bush met the First Lady at a BBQ? That's Love brotha!" - stainlessbanner)
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