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To: curiosity
What planet are you living on? THEY'RE REQUIRED TO RETURN HOME UNDER EXISTING LAW, yet they're not doing it. What makes you think they'd return home under this new law?

There will be two key differences:

1. The guest worker will have been registered and fingerprinted before entering the country, and will have a record of his whereabouts.

In case it escaped your notice, we don't have that with the current situation. It will make it much easier to catch those who are breaking the law.

2. The employer will notify the government when the worker is no longer in his employ.

Again, we don't have that with the current situation.

The illegal alien problem was a hell of a lot more manageable before 1965. Returning to the pre-1965 standard would be the best solution, IMNHO.

689 posted on 11/11/2004 9:08:49 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Poohbah; curiosity

Please remember we have amnest right now. Any illegal who can hide and stay out of violent felony trouble for ten years CAN and DO obtain amnesty.

We have amnesty now.

Any "guest worker" program should and must include provisions that the "guest" status is not convertable to permanent or citizenship status.

In adddition some change should be so that offspring of "guest" workers do not automatically become citizens nor should they become a drain on social services. (aka our tax dollars)


691 posted on 11/11/2004 11:38:22 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Poohbah
1. The guest worker will have been registered and fingerprinted before entering the country, and will have a record of his whereabouts.

It's a big country. It's very easy to get lost in it. If you think the government is going to keep track of every guest worker, and will no exactly where they are when they lose their jobs, you're living in a dream world.

In case it escaped your notice, we don't have that with the current situation. It will make it much easier to catch those who are breaking the law.

2. The employer will notify the government when the worker is no longer in his employ.

So you've got their fingerprints. Big deal. As soon as they lose or quit their job, they move. Then try finding them.

Again, we don't have that with the current situation.

The illegal alien problem was a hell of a lot more manageable before 1965. Returning to the pre-1965 standard would be the best solution, IMNHO.

I'd be very happy to return to the pre-1965 regime. Legal immigration was strictly limited to under 200,000 per year. The government was not afraid to launch massive deportation sweeps like operation wetback (that deported over 2 million people). Children of illegals were not granted automatic citizenship. And finally, but most importantly, guest workers had to apply before they arrived. If they were here illegally at any point, they were subject to deportation.

So yeah, let's return back to the pre-1965 regime. I'm all for it. This proposal, however, doesn't even come close to doing that.

695 posted on 11/11/2004 12:05:37 PM PST by curiosity
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