"Relax, Dems, It Won't Be Horrible" (Margaret Carlson: Roe will survive, thanks GOP and Specter)

LA Times ^ | Nov 11, 04 | Margaret Carlson

[churchillbuff]

...And the anchor of the agenda — right-wing appointments to the Supreme Court — may well be stopped by Republican fear of a splinter in their own coalition. ... If evangelicals win, moderates lose. Until now, there's always been a reason why the Bushes couldn't do more than regret abortion. ... There's no quicker way for soccer moms to be reborn than to convene a 5-4 pro-life vote on the Supreme Court. Surely if Karl Rove is smart enough ... It's why Bush talks more about a "culture of life" than about a culture of pro-life. ....

if Specter gets his chairmanship — and Orrin Hatch, who's rarely wrong on such matters, says he will — I'd score one for the moderates and a sign that Bush sees the peril in delivering the court to his right wing.

[morrighan_rising]

Hopefully this Specter nonsense will be a nonstarter, and he won't make it as Chair.

I do find it ironic that Dems haven't wasted half the energy supporting the rights of humans not to be killed by terrorists that they've wasted supporting the "rights" of people to kill their unborn children.

[johniegrad]

'Cuz it's murder vs. abuse.

[churchillbuff]

Left Wing Lunacy"""

I don't like Carlson, but it's not "left wing lunacy" to say that Specter will stall the conservative agenda on the courts. That's a fact. Specter promised as much to his home state newspaper editors.

[billhilly]

Cute.

[ApesForEvolution]

I agree. The GOP has Left Wing Lunatics masquerading as trustworthy Republicans...

[blackdog]

I've done just that and there is another reason to nitpick these arguments apart. This is a media sales job of groupthink. In groupthink, seemingly normal people with healthy ideals trade them in for a belief structure based on common acceptance. Carlson is selling that unfettered access to abortion is commonly accepted both societally and legally. It's become increasingly only the latter.

No few outstanding thinkers come forth with alternate ideals in fear of not being part of the group. Women seem to be far more subject to groupthinnk than men.

[swilhelm73]

I do find it ironic that Dems haven't wasted half the energy supporting the rights of humans not to be killed by terrorists that they've wasted supporting the "rights" of people to kill their unborn children.

Didn't you hear? The threat of terrorism has been greatly exaggerated.

/sarcasm

Personally, I'll never understand how people that claim to be the voice of the weak and powerless, namely the Left, also have no problem with the weak and powerless being killed.

Heck, look at John Edwards, he goes from channelling an unborn child in a trial to fighting against any legal protection for such a child.

[Cedar]

I've made calls to all of the Republican members of the Judiciary Committee (except Specter), and I've also called my two senator's offices.

It would be a betrayal to conservatives to give Specter the Chair...but the attitude of the article is anti-Christian, anti-pro-life.

I still say the L.A. Thymes needs opposition (along with just about every other liberal large city newspaper). Their liberal slant is a big part of the problem, and why more conservatives don't have power in the print media (starting their own major newspapers) is a puzzle to me. It couldn't be a lack of financing or talent.

[ApesForEvolution]

Are we going to see USSC nominees of the Gonzalez stripe coming next from Pennsylvania Ave.?

On one hand, I'm relieved that Bush's little amigo didn't get nominated to the bench.

On the other, why put a Liberal (abortion, AA, etc.) in charge of the DoJ?

I've almost had enough of the "Compassion" in "Compassionate" Conservatism for today...

Efforts to 'unite' (which last round gave us the Kennedy/Bush, bloated Education cr@pola) seemingly look more and more like running from the base to me.

[theDentist]

That's for sure. But let's not fool ourselves. If it were overturned (and I have strong doubts it will be), most of the states except perhaps Utah would immediately pass legislation allowing abortion. There's be some battles regarding 3rd trimester procedures, but they'd pretty much all pass them.

[ApesForEvolution]

Remember, the business of the Left is politics and the slimes' job is propaganda to that aim...

Their religion is Communist-like governance and power and they are the clerics...

The rest of us have lives in the real world...

[morrighan_rising]

That's right, I think I read somewhere that terrorism has been downgraded to a "nuisance."

*snicker*

[churchillbuff]

Dems haven't wasted half the energy supporting the rights of humans""

Specter is as strongly pro-abortion as any Democrat in the Senate - - yet the GOP is on the verge of giving him the chairmanship of one of the most important Senate committees.

[SupplySider]

Ms Carlson and her ilk are obsessed. Suppose "Roe" didn't survive. A woman who chose to have sex, then chose not to use effective birth control, then chose not to keep the baby, would still be able to choose a doctor in a nearby state, if not in her own state. That's a lot of choices.

[churchillbuff]

Ms Carlson and her ilk are obsessed."""

So is Specter. He calls Roe "inviolate." YEt the GOP is about to make him chairman of the judiciary committee. Why don't they skip the middleman, and simply make Margaret Carlson chair?

[katieanna]

All the fuss over Roe v. Wade makes me ask the question: do THAT many women actually plan to have an abortion at some point in their lives?

[Steel and Fire and Stone]

You know, there IS a cultural rift going on in America. The left can't understand why I have faith in a God greater than myself, why I believe in defending this Country from external threats, why I believe in the rule of law and defending the Constitution - our baseline "law", and why I see every conceived human embryo in human terms, just as I see my own two children.

And of course, I can't understand why the "right" to kill an unborn child during any part his or her gestation, is critical to the cause of social justice, i.e. why it's THE RIGHT which makes or breaks our society. I cannot even imagin such an insular, banal, obsessive point of view.

We have different values, and never the twain shall meet.

SFS

[churchillbuff]

You know, there IS a cultural rift going on in America."""

Yes, and why is the GOP going to give Specter -- who's on the leftist side of that rift -- the chairmanship of the judiciary committee?

[Howlin]

the GOP leaders will be showing they don't really want a conservative judicial agenda, and they're going to let Specter stop it for them.

I can't count the times you've been wrong. About practically everything.

[Aquinasfan]

There's no quicker way for soccer moms to be reborn than to convene a 5-4 pro-life vote on the Supreme Court.

Wrong. A higher percentage of women oppose abortion than men.