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great-grandmother to have twins
foxnews.com ^ | 11/11/04

Posted on 11/11/2004 5:21:30 PM PST by sassbox

A 59-year-old great-grandmother is pregnant with twins and will deliver next month, three decades after she had her tubes tied. "They came untied," Frances Harris (search) said Thursday.

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To: mississippi red-neck
I know of quite a lot of women,actually,whose doctors had told them that they could NOT (either ever,or again) conceive,but they did.Many of them had children later in life.Doctors don't know everything.

You're a good s-i-l.

161 posted on 11/12/2004 10:40:38 PM PST by nopardons
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To: rave123
My wife and I based on our knowledge of the very strange and unexplainable ways which brought two people living in different states together give credit to the Almighty.

We have never doubted it in the past nor do we now.

Don get me wrong we have had our share of problems and very, very hard times but the knowledge that we where meant to be man and wife has never been in doubt.

162 posted on 11/12/2004 11:38:17 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: nopardons
Then GOD made people have abortions,rape,steal,and murder innocents they don't even know/their mothers/fathers/siblings/best friends,molest children,commit arson and more? REALLY? GOD gave me a hangnail?

Yep.

163 posted on 11/13/2004 3:07:06 AM PST by cardinal4 (W's 3.5 million pop vote isnt a mandate, but algores .5 million is??)
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To: samiam1972
"God makes babies. They are miracles. No matter who the parents are. They deserve a chance despite the naysayers that have determined their lives will suck just because the parents are old. Wow."

Actually, God only made one baby as far as I know. God gave everyone else the ability to make babies. Its up to them to think before they begin the act that brings about a baby.

164 posted on 11/13/2004 4:26:57 AM PST by DaGman
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To: nopardons

nopardons-

I don't know why you are attacking me for having a different opinion than you. I do believe having your tubes tied is sinful and abstinence is the prefered method at our house when we feel that we're not ready for more kids at the moment. I don't go around judging every one that does not agree with me. The world is full of different people with different ideas. Wouldn't want it any other way!

I did not change my story about my aunt. Why would I? If you go back and look at my original post you will see that I said my grandma helped my aunt. I never said she raised them by herself. My aunt is not mentally retarded. I said she is not the most intelligent person in the world. She's made a few bad judgements. However, those supposed mistakes gave me 2 wonderful cousins that I love dearly.

I do believe that God oversees everything. He is all knowing. God gave us free will and allows bad things to happen. It all depends on what you do with those bad things. My aunt helped my grandmother and everything turned out fine. Does it always? Of course not. We take the good with the bad and grow from it.

Obviously a 59 year old woman IS capable of menstruating or she would not have conceived this baby. I never said it was an immaculate conception. I believe that it takes 3 to make a baby. A male, a female and God. My opinion. Not yours. Fine.


You said,

"And you have made quite a number of assumptions on your own;not to mention basing your opinions in a type of mindless religiosity,that doesn't strengthen your case.You don't know how much longer these parents will live,if the are in good health,or even if they have enough money to provide for these babies,should they die soon.There is no way to know if their older children and grandchildren,or even the great grandchildren will help. And there are health risks for a pregnant woman this age,as well as to the children she's carrying."

You don't know any of this information, either. Unlike you, I prefer to look at the positive possibilities instead of dwelling on the negative. I'm not mindless...just happy. According to you, only young, rich, healthy, married people should be allowed to have babies. I love babies. All of them. Even the unexpected ones. I have faith in mankind. I like to believe that this is a family that will stick together and help each other out. I don't see anything wrong with that.

You could be right. She may die or the children may die in childbirth. The parents may not be as physically fit as someone in their 20's. They may have astronomical hospital bills and need help from family, community or government. So what? Are we such hateful people that we can't find it in our hearts to help people that truly need it? She didn't exactly plan on this happening.

I'm still not sure exactly what you think this mother should have done to prevent this from happening? Not have sex? Then you agree with abstinence? No? I never said you thought abortion was the answer, I was asking you if you thought abortion was the answer. All I've seen from your posts is the horrific side of this situation. All I am trying to do is show the possibility of a more positive side. I have no idea how it will turn out. I'm just not going to jump on the negative band wagon. You're taking up all the room there already.


165 posted on 11/13/2004 6:49:46 AM PST by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: cardinal4

Nonsense!


166 posted on 11/13/2004 10:15:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Nonsense!

We are entitled to our opinions. I didnt question your faith, Ill ask you not to question mine..

167 posted on 11/14/2004 1:09:47 AM PST by cardinal4 (W's 3.5 million pop vote isnt a mandate, but algores .5 million is??)
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To: mississippi red-neck

*smiles* You sound like us. We were 19 and 20. . .no we didn't *have* to get married, but wanted to. We hit 13 years on Sept 20.


168 posted on 11/20/2004 9:32:36 AM PST by twinzmommy (Gen X-er and proud of it!)
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To: twinzmommy
Love, faith, prayer, devotion, patience and hard work seems to have worked so far for us.

38 years and counting.

Good Luck and may God Bless. MRN.

169 posted on 11/20/2004 2:39:03 PM PST by mississippi red-neck
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To: nopardons

Sorry. A 59 year old woman IS capable of menstruating. I have personal knowledge---


170 posted on 11/20/2004 2:59:18 PM PST by firescreek
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To: sassbox

what the hell is a woman that old doing having children shes way to old and whos going to look after the children when she dies selfish old bag this is nothing more the a biological and social experiment i feel sorry for those poor kids they have become nothing more than guinea pigs for sick twisted and immoral socail expereiments


171 posted on 03/21/2005 9:19:02 AM PST by John from Oz (how sick)
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To: sassbox

what the hell is a woman that old doing having children shes way to old and whos going to look after the children when she dies selfish old bag this is nothing more the a biological and social experiment i feel sorry for those poor kids they have become nothing more than guinea pigs for sick twisted and immoral socail expereiments


172 posted on 03/21/2005 9:21:41 AM PST by John from Oz (how sick)
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