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Shedding light on Islam (A Moderate's Perspective)
The Memphis Commercial Appeal ^ | November 14, 2004 | Bima Said

Posted on 11/14/2004 4:32:15 AM PST by MidTown_Doc

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To: Ruadh
‘Then allow me to say false things in order to deceive him.’ The Prophet said, ‘You may say such things.’

The father of lies and the prophet of the father of lies.

41 posted on 11/14/2004 6:38:29 AM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: weenie

"Think deeper indeed...I think what you mean is pretend to think so deeply that you submit...think deeply but don't think critically..."

They are not supposed to. From the Quran: Surah 5:101. "O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble..." And 5:102. "Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith."


42 posted on 11/14/2004 6:38:30 AM PST by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: weenie
As you probably know & understand, there is nothing either good or bad it's just the thinking that makes it so. May religions are tribal based & therefore ritual. The Islam faith leads the pack of the blind lead by the lame!
43 posted on 11/14/2004 6:39:28 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Kolokotronis

I'll pray for you. Good luck.


44 posted on 11/14/2004 6:39:44 AM PST by Haro_546
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To: MidTown_Doc
He died with fewer than five possessions to his name.

What happened to the rest of his wives?

45 posted on 11/14/2004 6:39:56 AM PST by Alouette (When the wicked perish, there is jubilation! Proverbs 11:10)
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To: MidTown_Doc

Safe harbors for real analysis and honest discussion do exist:

http://www.apostatesofislam.com

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sinaprologue.htm


46 posted on 11/14/2004 6:46:53 AM PST by 1 spark
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To: SIRTRIS
As you probably know & understand, there is nothing either good or bad it's just the thinking that makes it so...

First, I don't know or understand that...actions can be quite evil, even without thought.

Secondly, it is this fear of thought that results in evil actions and prevents Islam from considering itself and its own evil.

47 posted on 11/14/2004 6:49:31 AM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: SIRTRIS

A lie is not bad in itself, but only thinking makes it so? Can you amplify?


48 posted on 11/14/2004 6:51:22 AM PST by Ruadh (Liberty is not a means to a political end. It is itself the highest political end. — LORD ACTON)
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To: Ruadh

Spend some time reading JihadWatch and you will understand what the "plan" is with these posts from moderates.

The moderates should be moderating their OWN extremists, not us. What do they do instead? Egg them on and fund their terrorism campaigns and carry out their PR campaigns for them here.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/


49 posted on 11/14/2004 7:00:36 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: weenie
First, I don't know or understand that...actions can be quite evil, even without thought. it's the third person view of any action either good or bad i was trying to state. Evil needs to be defined. Evil/Good can be as complex as is one God & many religions. Isn't a belief system just a sell job & democracy the implementation? Secondly, it is this fear of thought that results in evil actions and prevents Islam from considering itself and its own evil. hmmmm, transparent. Islam has its own set of "check & balances" or accountablity & responsibility of evil actions, primative as it may appear. Again, who is right & wrong?
50 posted on 11/14/2004 7:12:36 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: SIRTRIS
Evil needs to be defined.

Good = Love and Truth

Bad = Hatred and Lies

51 posted on 11/14/2004 7:18:04 AM PST by weenie (Islam is as "dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog." -- Churchill)
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To: MidTown_Doc

"Jesus is considered as one of the greatest of God's messengers to mankind."

This is one of Satan's polite religious lies, "borrowing" a bit of Jesus for cover while denying His Divinity, His absolute claim to be THE way THE truth and THE life.

And this Muslims DO NOT believe. They do not confess Jesus Christ as Lord, so they remain lost until they do.


52 posted on 11/14/2004 7:20:04 AM PST by avenir
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To: backhoe

Why is it when these people prothalatize(spel?) about islam they never tell you they are a blood thirsty cult and keep their women and childern as slaves?http://www.prophetofdoom.net/quotes5.html#women


53 posted on 11/14/2004 7:24:30 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: joesnuffy

Good points.


54 posted on 11/14/2004 7:24:32 AM PST by avenir
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To: MidTown_Doc


All I've got to say is log onto www.frontpagemag.com today
and click on The Death of the Dutch.
Unfortunately, this is happening everywhere. Instead of moving out, the Dutch should seal their borders to illegals or persons who threaten their security, and SO SHOULD WE.


55 posted on 11/14/2004 7:25:03 AM PST by Paperdoll (.........on the cutting edge)
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To: avenir

Another thing about jesus is that muslims beleive, as in the koran, that jesus was not crucified.


56 posted on 11/14/2004 7:26:35 AM PST by Haro_546
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To: MidTown_Doc

what a load of crap


57 posted on 11/14/2004 7:27:44 AM PST by rang1995
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To: MidTown_Doc


PS - Is that you, MAKnight?


58 posted on 11/14/2004 7:29:40 AM PST by Paperdoll (.........on the cutting edge)
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To: buffyt
Mohammad was a pedophile. Married a six year old girl...consummated the marriage when she was at the ripe old age of NINE!
59 posted on 11/14/2004 7:30:28 AM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Muslims to this day follow the path of mohammed. I went egypt, and found that most of the little girls --8-6 where already married.


60 posted on 11/14/2004 7:31:50 AM PST by Haro_546
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