NBC Says Marine Shot Dead Wounded Iraqi Prisoner

Rooters via Yahho!News ^ | November 15, 2004

[fooman]

your nuts. He moving in a way were the marines could tell he was faking.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If so, then this should all blow over in a short time.

[Pajamajan]

let me emphasize the pertinent point:

"A second group of Marines entered the mosque Saturday AFTER REPORTS IT HAD BEEN REOCCUPIED"

I am fed up with our military having to battle the efn media from our own country on top of fighting the psycho-terrorists.
Enough!

[fooman]

amen

[Steel Wolf]

Now this terrorist was not responsive, but there may have been a language barrier.

Funny story. One time on a raid my team was pulling outer cordon security for another team that was clearing a small compound, looking for certain people. As we secured the courtyard, and the other team stacked on the front door, a side door opened up about 3 feet from me. An Iraqi looked out and, seeing what the commotion was, tried to back up and shut the door on me. With one hand I knocked the door back open while keeping the M4/M203 leveled at his chest with my other, and said 'Qif, qif' (Arabic for 'Halt').

He qifed. There was an akward pause. We looked at each other for several seconds, not moving an inch. In the excitement I forgot my next line.

Finally, I called over to my buddy and asked, 'Hey, what's the Arabic for 'Lie down' again?'

My buddy (who's a big guy carrying a SAW) ran up, and yelled, 'GET THE F@%K DOWN!'. The Iraqi lept for the ground without hesitation. Reading the expression on my face, my buddy explained, 'Translates into any language, dude.'

[fooman]

how do you about this 24 hours later.

[Steel Wolf]

I think that the Marine is still in hot water, and this is why. For one, the political pressure from the media and other governments will be very heavy to see this guy punished. Also, the appearance of wrongdoing may prompt the military to make an example out of him anyway, simply to ensure discipline. Right or wrong, they've laid down a policy, and now they'll either enforce it or they won't.

It would be a hard sell for the military to say, 'He violated the ROE, and if anyone else does they'll be punished, but we'll let this Marine slide because his violation became a media event'.

It would be an easier (and more honest) sell to say, 'The ROE isn't based on common sense for the situation, and it puts troops in unnecessary danger, so we're changing it', but I doubt they'll sack up and do it.

[fooman]

We are the knights that say QIF!, QIF!