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1 posted on 11/16/2004 5:44:11 PM PST by Peter J. Huss
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To: Peter J. Huss

He's shacked up with McAwfull somewhere.


2 posted on 11/16/2004 5:44:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
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To: Peter J. Huss

who cares


3 posted on 11/16/2004 5:44:55 PM PST by Gibtx (pajamahadeen call to arms.....)
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To: Peter J. Huss

I was thinking that maybe Zogby was the guy who set himself on fire in from of the WH yesterday.


4 posted on 11/16/2004 5:45:52 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Peter J. Huss

Come to think of it, I can't recall ever seeing him in the same room as Arafat.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 5:46:00 PM PST by bayourod (Specter's litmus test : "No Christian Judges")
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To: Peter J. Huss

He's busy at Mickey D's, adding his favorite ingredient to the Big Macs.


7 posted on 11/16/2004 5:47:36 PM PST by Numbers Guy
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To: Peter J. Huss

I'm pretty much undecided at this point. Let me know if you get more information on his whereabouts. Perhaps I will decide to be worried.


8 posted on 11/16/2004 5:47:54 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Peter J. Huss
He's out looking for those 311 EVs for Yaawn! It may take a while.

Pray for W and Our Troops

9 posted on 11/16/2004 5:48:39 PM PST by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: Peter J. Huss

Did you look in Canada??

NeverGore :^)


11 posted on 11/16/2004 5:51:05 PM PST by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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To: Peter J. Huss

Latest poll has zogby up in canada 53% to 43% with 4% still undecided.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 5:53:10 PM PST by pipecorp ("never know where you're going till you get there." the philosopher Insectus Harem)
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To: Peter J. Huss
He may be hanging out with Terry McAwful, Scott Ritter, Hans Blix and I think maybe Mark Geragos.
14 posted on 11/16/2004 5:53:57 PM PST by red-dawg
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To: Peter J. Huss

Hush, my darling, don't fear, my darling, the pollster sleeps tonight.
Hush, my darling, don't fear, my darling, the pollster sleeps tonight.

Wee-ooh wim-o-weh. Wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh
o-wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh o-wim-weh.
Wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh
o-wim-o-weh o-wim-o-weh o-wim-weh.


16 posted on 11/16/2004 5:56:30 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Peter J. Huss

He's most likely on a very expensive vacation spending some of the pile of money he's made as a so-so pollster.


17 posted on 11/16/2004 6:07:20 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((DO IT NOW, if you haven't put up a flag on your FR homepage yet,PLEASE))
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To: Peter J. Huss

He's decided to get back to the basics and is studying up. 1+1=2, 2+2=4, 1+2=3, etc.


18 posted on 11/16/2004 6:08:19 PM PST by ml1954
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To: Peter J. Huss

Who cares.


19 posted on 11/16/2004 6:13:07 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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No one should worry about this little twit!


21 posted on 11/16/2004 6:18:52 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Peter J. Huss

Did you know in arabic that zogby means donkey penis?


22 posted on 11/16/2004 6:20:03 PM PST by Harley
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Don't know where Zogby is but Rasmussen released his latest daily tracking poll for 2008:

Condi Rice is at 47.6% and Shrillary is at 46.4%. Essentially a dead heat. Please keep checking in daily for updates over the next 1447 exciting days!

23 posted on 11/16/2004 6:21:54 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Red Sox Win The World Series...And Bush Wins Re-election Too!)
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My guess is that Zogby's fate will be similar to that of the Literary Digest. I don't expect to hear much from either anytime soon...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Landon in a Landslide: The Poll That Changed Polling

The 1936 presidential election proved a decisive battle, not only in shaping the nation’s political future but for the future of opinion polling. The Literary Digest, the venerable magazine founded in 1890, had correctly predicted the outcomes of the 1916, 1920, 1924, 1928, and 1932 elections by conducting polls. These polls were a lucrative venture for the magazine: readers liked them; newspapers played them up; and each “ballot” included a subscription blank. The 1936 postal card poll claimed to have asked one forth of the nation’s voters which candidate they intended to vote for. In Literary Digest's October 31 issue, based on more than 2,000,000 returned post cards, it issued its prediction: Republican presidential candidate Alfred Landon would win 57 percent of the popular vote and 370 electoral votes.

Landon, 1,293,669; Roosevelt, 972,897

Final Returns in the Digest’s Poll of Ten Million Voters

Well, the great battle of the ballots in the poll of 10 million voters, scattered throughout the forty-eight states of the Union, is now finished, and in the table below we record the figures received up to the hour of going to press.

These figures are exactly as received from more than one in every five voters polled in our country—they are neither weighted, adjusted, nor interpreted.

Never before in an experience covering more than a quarter of a century in taking polls have we received so many different varieties of criticism—praise from many and condemnation from many others—and yet it has been just of the same type that has come to us every time a Poll has been taken in all these years.

A telegram from a newspaper in California asks: "Is it true that Mr. Hearst has purchased The Literary Digest?“ A telephone message only the day before these lines were written: ”Has the Republican National Committee purchased The Literary Digest?“ And all types and varieties, including: ”Have the Jews purchased The Literary Digest?" "ls the Pope of Rome a stockholder of The Literary Digest?" And so it goes—all equally absurd and amusing. We could add more to this list, and yet all of these questions in recent days are but repetitions of what we have been experiencing all own the years from the very first Poll.

Problem—Now, are the figures in this poll correct? In answer to this question we will simply refer to a telegram we sent to a young man in Massachusetts the other day answer to his challenge to us to wager 100,000 on the accuracy of our Poll. We wired him as follows:

For nearly a quarter century, we have been taking Polls of the voters in the forty-eight States, and especially in Presidential years, and we have always merely mailed the ballots, counted and recorded those returned and let the people of the Nation draw their conclusions as to our accuracy. So far, we have been right in every Poll. Will we be right in the current Poll? That, as Mrs. Roosevelt said concerning the President’s reelection, is in the “lap of the gods.”

We never make any claims before election but we respectfully refer you to the opinion of one of the most quoted citizens today, the Hon. James A. Farley, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee. This is what Mr. Farley said October 14, 1932:

"Any sane person cannot escape the implication of such a gigantic sampling of popular opinion as is embraced in The Literary Digest straw vote. I consider this conclusive evidence as to the desire of the people of this country for a change in the National Government. The Literary Digest poll is an achievement of no little magnitude. It is a Poll fairly and correctly conducted."

In studying the table of the voters from of the States printed below, please remember that we make no claims at this time for their absolute accuracy. On a similar occasion we felt it important to say:

In a wild year like this, however, many sagacious observers will refuse to bank upon appearances, however convincing. As for The Digest, it draws no conclusions from the results of its vast distribution of twenty million ballots. True to its historic non-partizan policy—or “omni-partizan,” as some editor described it in 1928—we supply our readers with the facts to the best of our ability, and leave them to draw their own conclusions.

We make no claim to infallibility. We did not coin the phrase “uncanny accuracy” which has been so freely-applied to our Polls. We know only too well the limitations of every straw vote, however enormous the sample gathered, however scientific the method. It would be a miracle if every State of the forty-eight behaved on Election day exactly as forecast by the Poll.

We say now about Rhode Island and Massachusetts that our figures indicate in our own judgment too large a percentage for Mr. Landon and too small a percentage for Mr. Roosevelt, and although in 1932 the figures in these two States indicated Mr. Hoover’s carrying both, we announced:

“A study of the returns convinces us that in those States our ballots have somehow failed to come back in adequate quantity from large bodies of Democratic voters.”

Our own opinion was that they would be found in the Roosevelt column, and they were. We will not do the same this year; we feel that both States will be found in the Landon column, and we are reaching this conclusion by the same process that lead to the reverse conclusion in 1932.

Pennsylvania is another State which requires special mention. Four years ago, our figures gave the State to Mr. Roosevelt, and Mr. Hoover carried it on Election day. In comparing our ballot this year with that of 1932, we find that in many cities in Pennsylvania our figures showed a much higher trend toward Mr. Roosevelt than was justified by the election figures on Election day in 1932. In examining the very same cities now we discover the reverse trend, and in cities that in 1932 indicated an approximately 60–40 percent relationship between Roosevelt and Hoover, we now find 60 percent for Landon and 40 percent for Roosevelt.

That’s the plain language of it. Many people wonder at these great changes in a State like Pennsylvania, and we confess to wonderment ourselves.

On the Pacific Coast, we find California, Oregon, and Washington all vote for Mr. Landon in our Poll, and yet we are told that the Pacific Coast is “aflame” for Mr. Roosevelt.

A State like California is always a difficult State to get an accurate opinion from by the polling method, and we may be far astray, yet every one should remember that in the Gubernatorial campaign a few years ago, we took a Poll of California when it was believed by most of California citizens that Mr. Upton Sinclair would be elected Governor, and the result of our Poll showed that Mr. Sinclair would not be elected Governor and the Poll was correct.

The State of Washington seems to be more favorable to Mr. Landon than either Oregon or California. We cannot in our Poll detect anything that would indicate a reason for this difference.

Seattle—Right here we wish to say that in 1932 our Poll in Seattle gave Mr. Roosevelt 65.43 percent of the vote, and he carried that city by 61.58 percent of the vote. In the current Poll, 1936, Seattle gives Mr. Landon 58.52 percent and Mr. Roosevelt 40.46 percent. Our readers will notice we overestimated Mr. Roosevelt in 1932—are we overestimating Mr. Landon now? We see no reason for supposing so. And the three Pacific Coast States which now show for Mr. Landon and which millions believe will vote for Mr. Roosevelt (they may be right) in 1924, 1928, and 1932 were correctly forecast in The Literary Digest Polls.

In the great Empire State, New York the figures for so large a State are what might be called very close. After looking at the figures for New York in the column at the left, remember that in 1932 we gave Mr. Roosevelt 46.1 percent and Mr. Hoover 43.9 percent, even closer than it is to day. And yet we correctly forecast that Mr. Roosevelt would carry the State.

And so we might go on with many States that are very close, and some not so close, but in which local conditions have much to do with results, not in polls such as our Poll but on Election day.

The Poll represents the most extensive straw ballot in the field—the most experienced in view of its twenty-five years of perfecting—the most unbiased in view of its prestige—a Poll that has always previously been correct.

Even its critics admit its value as an index of popular sentiment. As one of these critics, the Nation, observes:

“Because it indicates both the 1932 and 1936 vote, it offers the raw material for as careful a prognostication as it is possible to make at this time.”

27 posted on 11/16/2004 6:42:12 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (I support tax cuts for the rich... and I VOTE!)
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To: Peter J. Huss

Got an e-mail poll from Zogby today.


28 posted on 11/16/2004 7:02:58 PM PST by Roses0508
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