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The Corner at NRO pessimistic about Specter.
NRO ^ | November 16, 2004 | NRO

Posted on 11/16/2004 7:34:05 PM PST by urbanrepublican

ALSO HEARING [KJL]
from a Senate staffer:

the caucus and leadership meetings were not love fests. Specter was forced to address the issues and his leadership of the committee, and to defend himself. Hatch in fact did exit the meeting and put his arm around Specter and endorsed him.

Conservatives are livid about Hatch's actions, but now feel there is little that can be done. The old guard is backing him, and some more endorsements are expected tonight and tomorrow. The way it was put to me is that barring a last minute surprise, Specter has the job.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nro; specter; ussenate
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To: Verginius Rufus

Let's give him a chance. No Democrat would write a brief in the WSJ op-ed pages or a National Review article explaining to conservatives he'll stand by the President. My philosophy is a pragmatic one - as long as Arlen works for us, I don't care that his voting record isn't 100% lifetime ACU. AS long as he votes for the President's nominees, that's good enough for me. Getting rid of liberal judges is more important than any Democratic bill Arlem here might vote for.


21 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: KoRn

The point is if they handle things in a committee that he chairs we will not be able to watch.

They know what they are doing. I think they don't care that much. As long as there are abortions there is an issue. The issue is a proven vote-getter. Why kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Supreme Court nominations are rather rare. This is the last chance to end abortion in our lifetimes.

I feel used.


22 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:46 PM PST by urbanrepublican
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To: KoRn
we are watching? ... Fat lot of good that will do with 'Scottish Law' Arlan. He cares not a whit what you or I think, and the Pubby leadership will use his errancy as an excuse to remain ambiguous regarding protection for the little ones. They've proven their fecklessness with the lack of action to defend their partial birth abortion ban!
23 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:55 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: trek
"Depressing news. Hatch is the penultimate RINO. We need to boot these guys out."

Good things take time...it's coming...just ask South Dakota...they are one fine example of "coming around"
24 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:17 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: urbanrepublican

The Chair isn't king.


25 posted on 11/16/2004 7:49:51 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the...feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse." --J.S. Mill)
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To: urbanrepublican

They are giving up too soon. A few media words, and the pressure stops.

If MILLIONS of conservatives would keep this up, it still would be stoppable.

It's up to us.

But will the millions do it?

(Maybe that's why these Senators know they can do whatever they want. The sheep will go back to their football and prime-time TV comedies.)


26 posted on 11/16/2004 7:49:51 PM PST by Cedar
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

Sure you do. We need all the help we can get. Punishing Arlen would be to throw away all the chances we can get to reshape the federal bench. That's stupid. Conservatives need to look at the whole picture. My motto is, "trust but verify." We'll watching to see Arlen lives up to his pledges.


27 posted on 11/16/2004 7:50:02 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: urbanrepublican

Warning to Bill Frist....if you let this happen you are screwed in the 2008 primary...we rallied hard and showed how we felt, and if you blow us off, kiss any larger ambitions goodbye...


28 posted on 11/16/2004 7:50:43 PM PST by PianoMan (Top priority for the new government - STOP SPECTER)
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To: grids
---Hatch is the penultimate RINO---

what is a "penultimate" RINO? Are there only two? Who is the last RINO?

29 posted on 11/16/2004 7:50:44 PM PST by smonk
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To: rwfromkansas

Republicans will have a bigger majority on Judiciary. And hearings WILL be scheduled. Before Freepers have a seizure, let's remember NOTHING would have happened had Leahy been in charge.


30 posted on 11/16/2004 7:51:35 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: PianoMan

In the Senate, one's word is currency. I hazard a guess Arlen gave his colleagues assurances to that effect and in exchange they let him have his chairmanship. His word is now his bond.


31 posted on 11/16/2004 7:53:12 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Hotdog
Hatch and Daschle can go on a gay frolic in San Francisco for all I care. That is what I think of the comity of the Senate.
32 posted on 11/16/2004 7:53:47 PM PST by trek
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To: goldstategop
I see it as cause for celebration. I want the RINOs with us rather than with the Democrats. When we lost Jeffords, it was a disaster. I don't to have us go through that again. We conservatives have to accept some compromises for the long-range good. I'll live with a RINO chairman so long as conservative judicial nominees get confirmed. To me, that's an acceptable trade-off.

Well said! I agree 100%

33 posted on 11/16/2004 7:56:22 PM PST by Hazzardgate
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To: goldstategop
No you don't. We here in PA have been watching Specter for 24 years. He doesn't live up to his pledges. He wants to leave a legacy in his own image (and will if he heads the judiciary) whether we anger him or not.

This has nothing to do with punishing Specter. God will do that. We don't want him with all the power as Judiciary chair, blocking conservative Supreme Court nominees.

34 posted on 11/16/2004 7:59:12 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: urbanrepublican
---I don't see any good news here. It looks like a done deal.---

NR is reliably conservative, but they aren't always right. senators are like ducks; everything worth watching is happening under the surface.

and NR devoted the majority of an entire print issue to defeating specter; when they get that close to a cause, it sometimes screws up their judgment.

35 posted on 11/16/2004 7:59:46 PM PST by smonk
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To: urbanrepublican

Arlene knows where all the bodies are burried since he burried John F Kennedy

They are all crooks and compromised... the whole rat nest of them Pubbies and Dems

They could care less for the Republic or the Constitution....they care only for themselves
and their positions to be able to rob Americans of their tax dollars and line their own pockets and those of their big money patrons

imo


36 posted on 11/16/2004 8:00:56 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: goldstategop

The one argument I found consoling from the other side, was that if Arlen has basically agreed not to block anyone, then the cons have "cover" because they can point to their independent moderate in support, to show that so and so is not an extreme nominee. And if that were the arrangement, that would indeed be excellent.


37 posted on 11/16/2004 8:01:12 PM PST by PianoMan (Top priority for the new government - STOP SPECTER)
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To: goldstategop

Yep, I guess you and I are in the minority around these parts. I'm not a Specter fan, but he's a member of our party. He'll chair the committee and life will be okay.


38 posted on 11/16/2004 8:01:17 PM PST by Gunder
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To: urbanrepublican

As National Review editorialized, the elevation of Specter to the chairmanship of the Judiciary Committee would represent a "betrayal" of social conservatives. As indeed it does. We now have a pro-abort Attorney General and a pro-abort Judiciary Committee Chairman. Anyone who now thinks that Bush will push for the overturn of Roe v Wade is delusional.


39 posted on 11/16/2004 8:01:18 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

So you presume its a given he'll break whatever he's told party colleagues and proceed to willy-nilly do the opposite? He maybe the chairman but he has just ONE vote on the Judiciary Committee.


40 posted on 11/16/2004 8:02:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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