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SAS ace defends trooper (“Every soldier has a right to defend himself")
thesun.co.uk ^ | 11/17/04 | MARTIN PHILLIPS

Posted on 11/17/2004 3:54:24 AM PST by notkerry

A WOUNDED US soldier seen on TV shooting dead an Iraqi prisoner was defended last night by SAS hero Andy McNab.

The US marine — shot in the cheek earlier — machine-gunned the man in the head as he lay bleeding in a mosque in Fallujah.

The soldier feared the Iraqi was pretending to be dead to draw him into a trap.

Just before the killing, a fellow GI yells: “He’s f***ing faking he’s dead!”

Walking away ... victim is obscured by fellow captive after burst of gunfire

The marine faces a murder probe.

But McNab — who has stared death in the face — said: “It’s easy for people sitting comfortably in their armchairs in front of the TV to take the moral high ground.

“They are not there in Fallujah, in that killing environment.

“We don’t know what is going through that marine’s head. The Iraqi could have been hiding a weapon or explosives.

Grisly ... the shot prisoner - on the left - lies dead in Fallujah mosque

“Troops are fighting an enemy that doesn’t stick to any rules.

“The insurgents use mosques to launch attacks. They come out under cover of a white flag, then attack the Americans. They plant booby-trap bombs on dead bodies.

“Every soldier has a right to defend himself, and if that is a grey area — then so be it.”


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanhero; defendingothers; fallujahmarine; mediatrash; queerchrissy; sas; slanderngprivateryan; terrorist
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To: Mo1

Supposedly other jihadis raised their hands and were not shot. Somehow this jihadi's behavior was sufficiently devious to raise doubts.

Too bad, so sad.

As for the reporters, their tape should be kept under military custody until the battle is over. This isn't
Iron Chef, people don't need to see the sausage being
made.


41 posted on 11/17/2004 5:43:34 AM PST by rahbert
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To: notkerry

When in doubt, take them out.


42 posted on 11/17/2004 5:43:55 AM PST by blueknight
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To: notkerry
Didn't french troops just kill 9 people in Ivory Coast when they shot into a crowd? I seem to remember reading this somewhere (most likely here on FR)
43 posted on 11/17/2004 5:44:01 AM PST by yooling (Go git'em men!)
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To: notkerry

I am so grateful to God that we have had so few casualties!


44 posted on 11/17/2004 5:46:59 AM PST by RaceBannon (Arab Media pulled out of Fallujah; Could we get the MSM to pull out of America??)
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To: raybbr

So, blame Bush, hah. This is pretty much the jist of the post.


45 posted on 11/17/2004 5:47:46 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: raybbr
Don't you think that blaming the guy who just happened to be there with a camera is a little bit crazy? He didn't for the marine to shoot him. What was he supposed to do? Not report it?

You are kidding right?

What this guy should have done with his 'hot scoop' was hand it over to the proper military authorities and kept his mouth shut until he was given clearance to open it.

Why would he do this? Let's say out of an abundance of caution so as not to hang this young man out to dry in the media, to be sure he had solid footing to report the 'hot scoop' on, TO NOT ENDANGER OUR TROOPS THROUGH WORLD WIDE SHOWING OF THE VIDEO that could be construed just as it is being, by people who WERE NOT IN THE MOSQUE AND WHO HAD NO RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE SAFETY OF THEMSELVES AND OTHERS (This would include the embeds).

Kevin Sites failed. Failed miserably as a decent human being, but that usually happens with libs, their sheep clothing slips when they smell blood.

46 posted on 11/17/2004 5:50:04 AM PST by WifeMotherDaughterSister ( Take no prisoners of child abuse terrorists...)
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To: notkerry
Marine Mosque Shooting Correspondent Kevin Sites Has "Art" Photos On Anti-War Site
47 posted on 11/17/2004 5:50:51 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: notkerry
I remember reading Guadalcanal Diary where playing dead so I can Kill you was a favorite trick of the Japanese


guess some people just don't know history
48 posted on 11/17/2004 5:51:06 AM PST by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: RedEyeJack

Thanks for a good post on some of the background of this matter...


49 posted on 11/17/2004 5:51:06 AM PST by Fury
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To: Sirc_Valence

You are so right. The MSM have already done so much damage, not enough soap in the entire world to wash off their sins. And they show no intent to stop.


50 posted on 11/17/2004 5:51:30 AM PST by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: raybbr
He should have given the tape to the OIC and let the Marines interpret the incident. Instead, it was put out on the airwaves and is now being used as propaganda. This is so much like the left to use a 2 dimensional picture to manipulate (ala Rodney King, farenheit 911).

What makes the whole thing even more despicable is that this is at least partially being done for news ratings in a sweeps month.

51 posted on 11/17/2004 5:51:55 AM PST by yooling (Go git'em men!)
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To: notkerry

“Every soldier has a right to defend himself...




That's all that needs to be said. Your first duty is to protect your squad that you are a part of. If you feel your squad is under threat, you eliminate that threat.

Case closed.


52 posted on 11/17/2004 5:56:53 AM PST by sergeantdave (More liberal turkeys will be steamed this month than real turkeys baked.)
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To: Tom Bombadil
Not only are these photo bozos in the way during combat, they don't go into the building "first".

I beg to differ. Combat photography is nowhere near a spectator event. Robert Capa, Sean Flynn, Larry Burrows, Dana Stone, the list of photographers who have been killed covering war zones is very long.

Check out the book Requiem: By the Photographers Who Died in Vietnam and Indochina edited by Tim Page, a man who himself was wounded four times in Vietnam, the last being from a landmine while trying to help wounded US Soldiers.

53 posted on 11/17/2004 5:57:10 AM PST by killjoy (I'm John Kerry and I'm relieved of duty.)
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To: Diogenesis

Thank you for pointing out that NBC is owned by General Electric. I heard on Bill Bennett's program this morning that the tape was also send to Al Jazeera, before the tape was broadcast on US television.


54 posted on 11/17/2004 6:02:19 AM PST by Fred Hayek
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To: Kenton

When the SAS conducted the rescue mission at the Iranian Embassy in London, none of the hostage takers survived. Some wounded on the ground tried surrendering when an SAS trooper went by, and still got shot. Tough! That's war, especially when the enemy is not a regular combatant (by literal interpretation of Geneva).


55 posted on 11/17/2004 6:08:00 AM PST by Fred Hayek
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To: killjoy
Combat photography.

You bring up an area I have had questions about before. I was reading about the two different flag raising on Iwo Jima and from links there heard about combat photographers.

Are these enlisted men who are designated the task that our embeds do now? Does the military still have combat trained soldiers who are responsible for also acquiring a photographic testimony of their activities in the combat zone. Are civilian photographers also referred to as combat photographers? *I can't get amazon to come up right now.

56 posted on 11/17/2004 6:08:11 AM PST by WifeMotherDaughterSister ( Take no prisoners of child abuse terrorists...)
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To: raybbr

The guy that filmed this also made statements against the Marine. This journalist is a low-life scumbag out to make our troops look bad. You are quite the F'in idiot to blame the President for this incident. Are things slow at DU?


57 posted on 11/17/2004 6:13:47 AM PST by ohioman
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To: raybbr
Don't you think that blaming the guy who just happened to be there with a camera is a little bit crazy/

No. The footage was reported out of context with the intent to do harm to marines and with the knowlege of incitement. In the big war, this would not have been reported except to the military authorities.

Go to the photographer's web site and see what his intent is.

You are correct though, about whether this bozo should even have been with the squad. Print media, O.K...but not video cameras. In an urban war, these guys are just so much dangerous dead wood for the troops to carry.

58 posted on 11/17/2004 6:14:13 AM PST by Tom Bombadil
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To: MinuteGal
I believe your comment on Kerry is why the lefties, liberals and anit-Americans won't be calling for this Marine's blood.

Before this is over we will probably refer to these type incidents as a "Kerry killing".

59 posted on 11/17/2004 6:15:12 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet
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To: notkerry
The Marines should routinely toss in a granade before entering a potentially dangerous area.
60 posted on 11/17/2004 6:16:56 AM PST by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush!)
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