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Pope Says Attempts to Destroy Family as Institution Deeply Wounds Society
Associated Press ^ | Published: Nov 20, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 11/20/2004 6:46:39 PM PST by BenLurkin

VATICAN CITY (AP) - Pope John Paul II warned against attempts to tamper with what he called "the irreplaceable" institution of marriage-based family, saying Saturday that such efforts would deeply wound society. John Paul has been an outspoken opponent of gay marriage.

His speech to participants in a meeting of the Vatican's council on family matters did not mention any specific issues. But it appeared to refer to moves by some countries and cities to recognize marriage between homosexuals and to grant social benefits deriving from marriage - such as inheritance or pensions - to cohabiting couples who are not married.

"Family, based on marriage, is a natural, irreplaceable institution and fundamental element of the common good of every society," the pope said. "Whoever destroys this fundamental fabric of human coexistence, by not respecting its identity and by distorting its tasks, delivers a deep wound to society and often provokes irreparable damage."

His remarks echoed declarations in the Vatican's recently issued compendium of church teaching on social issues. That document stated that "no power can abolish the natural right to marriage or modify its traits and purpose."

AP-ES-11-20-04 2118EST


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: marriage
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1 posted on 11/20/2004 6:46:39 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

He's a little slow on the uptake...right, but slow with this comment.


2 posted on 11/20/2004 6:48:46 PM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: TexasTaysor

Mejor tarde que nunca. (Better late than never.)

I wish he'd been a little more forthright all along, however, and maybe we wouldn't be facing this problem.


3 posted on 11/20/2004 6:51:16 PM PST by livius
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To: BenLurkin; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

The Vicar speaks, does anyone listen?


4 posted on 11/20/2004 6:52:30 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: narses
I like the Pope...I think he's a swell guy...

...but does "a man of intellectual depth" always mean nuanced or convoluted or just late?

5 posted on 11/20/2004 6:56:12 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: BenLurkin

Then why does the Catholic Church tolerate and at times even seem to condone socialism?


6 posted on 11/20/2004 6:56:41 PM PST by nomad
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To: BenLurkin
Great! As a Christian I am glad that the Pope is acknowledging something that has been common sense to many of us after all this time.
7 posted on 11/20/2004 6:56:42 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: weenie

By the way...I read the Pope's most recent book...I think it was ghost written by John Kerry.


8 posted on 11/20/2004 6:57:45 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: nomad

I like that question. In fact, I predict that very question will be part of the political battle coming up in 2008.


9 posted on 11/20/2004 6:59:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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To: weenie

Bashing the Pope is such a great way to show yopur support for the family. That IS your intent, yes?


10 posted on 11/20/2004 7:03:25 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: nomad

Teddy? Hillary? John? Nancy? Would you like to answer this question? LOL


11 posted on 11/20/2004 7:03:36 PM PST by perfect stranger
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To: nomad
"Then why does the Catholic Church tolerate and at times even seem to condone socialism"

The Catholic Church doesn't support socialism. Just ask Mel Gibson. But Communists have infiltrated the seminaries just like they have infested the rest of academia. And "liberation theology" (read socialist slavery) has been the result.

12 posted on 11/20/2004 7:07:16 PM PST by trek
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To: BenLurkin

Now I'm really confused. I didn't get the memo, so I dunno. Are we supposed to applaud or bash and advise the Pope to mind his own bidnys and take care of all those child molesting priests (no doubt 100% of all priests, right?)


13 posted on 11/20/2004 7:10:10 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: narses
Bashing the Pope is such a great way to show yopur support for the family. That IS your intent, yes?

...Is the Pope a muslim? Is it blasphemy to make a statement about a Pope...tell me in the bible where that is stated...

As I said, I like the Pope, but I will also say that centralization has not helped the cause of the (Catholic or any Protestant) church...

Jesus is bigger than any denomination...would you have me turn my back on Him in favor of a denomination?

14 posted on 11/20/2004 7:11:44 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Revolting cat!

"no doubt 100% of all priests, right?"

No, actually very, very few priests have been even accused of molesting children, not to say CONVICTED. The percentage of CONVICTED public school teachers is a number much larger than those accused priests. THAT ought to worry people, it doesn't Why?


15 posted on 11/20/2004 7:13:04 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: weenie

Having trouble answering an honest question? Catholic baiting isn't pretty. Try finding a common ground would be my suggestion.


16 posted on 11/20/2004 7:15:37 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: perfect stranger

The Catholic Church has always taught that homosexual behavior is intrinsically disordered, and that marriage is between one man and one woman. I don't understand the reason for the backhanded compliments being generated here. The Pope doesn't have to comment on everything bothering us here in the US just as soon as they happen. That's what our priests and bishops here are supposed to be doing, and a good many have been doing just that.


17 posted on 11/20/2004 7:17:21 PM PST by GenXFreedomFighter (So he smirks. So do I. What of it?)
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To: narses
It gets worse, actually. I read an estimate somewhere saying that perhaps as much as 70% of all accusations are false.

So, think now. 100 priests accused, by 70 people. Or 50 priests accused by 70 people. 70% of those priest are accused falsely. 70% of accusers are liars. Liars hoping for a big payday outnumber the molesters by 2 to 1. Where, I ask, is the real scandal?!

18 posted on 11/20/2004 7:17:47 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: narses
Don't stoop to ad hominem attacks...calm down and try again...I don't mean to bait the church...if that was perceived, it most certainly wasn't intended...

but I will say that in this forum...some of us strive for bluntness...if in using the broad blade we miss the target...I know you will forgive us...

19 posted on 11/20/2004 7:19:35 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: BenLurkin

I wish he would have said it before Nov. 2nd.


20 posted on 11/20/2004 7:20:14 PM PST by Ciexyz (I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
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