Atheists sue to stop Christian mentoring

WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/27/04 | WorldNetDaily

[risk]

The ACLU gives skepticism a bad name. Some of our Founding Fathers were skeptics, yet they were able to make lasting law with their Puritan counterparts during the Constitutional Convention. I say America needs both today just as it did then. The common enemy is the extremist who wants to use law to force his opinions on others -- from either perspective.

[EdReform]

Ping

[sionnsar]

Thanks. Ugh!

[jwalsh07]

The 14th amendment incorporation clause extended all federal rights to any citizen in the United States.

No such clause exists and the second amendment has never been incorporated. Care to guess why?

[cyborg]

Does atheist mentoring have a better effect on children? I wonder!

[MississippiMan]

Is it my imagination, or has the discrimination and harassment of Christian organizations stepped up in the last 36 months?

The acceleration is dramatic. The Godless left is freaking out, Annie, and they've really kicked in the afterburners since the election, for the first time expressing open disgust and contempt for Christians. Of course, none of these groups have a problem with Islam or Buddhism or Witches or any other religion; it's all about Christianity. Puzzling and hypocritical on its face, but perfectly logical when you look deeper. You just have to figure out who's REALLY at the core of these outfits, and then it's completely understandable that only Christ scares him.

MM

[wagglebee]

Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

With respect to a state religion you are correct. However, the "equal protection clause" does not make the 10th Amendment irrelevant. The left wants to make everything a matter for the federal courts, when clearly most of these issues are state issues, and the overwhelming majority are legislative rather than judicial issues.

[inquest]

In all fairness, "In the year of our Lord" was generally used on all formal documents at the time.

And what does that say about society at the time? I have a hard time imagining any atheist or other non-Christian saying "in the year of our Lord". AD I can see, because A and D are just two letters of the alphabet. But I can't imagine anyone uttering that full phrase without understanding the import of it. Maybe it's just me.

[anniegetyourgun]

Yep.

[wagglebee]

I never said the phrase "separation of church and state" should be banned from the US Constitution simply because it was in the Soviet Constitution. I said it NEVER has been in our Constitution, and it is foolish to adjudicate laws based on Constitutional phraseology THAT DOESN'T EXIST!

[Mr. Silverback]

I have a message for the folks at the Freedom From Religion Foundation:

Merry
Christmas!

[wagglebee]

But I can't imagine anyone uttering that full phrase without understanding the import of it. Maybe it's just me.

I've heard both Clintons, Kerry, Dean, Gore and all of the other leftists refer to God many times and no, I don't think the magnitude of our Lord means anything to them.

[ApplegateRanch]

I don't remember them b!tching about Scientology running anti-drug programs under government contract.

Just the first example I can pull off the top of my head. I'm sure their are others.

[Mr. Silverback]

The Feds shouldn't fund any program like this, the states however, should have that right.

You misunderstand. If the mentors were atheists, the FFRF would swoon. They only share your dim view of federal social funding in cases where it might make a kid think religious people are reasonable.

[Mr. Silverback]

See post 78, Doc.

[inquest]

The 14th amendment incorporation clause extended all federal rights to any citizen in the United States. This means that states can no longer establish an official religion.

The second statement follows from the first only if you could demonstrate that establishing an official religion actually violates someone's rights.