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Iran Boasts of Victory Over U.S. on Nuclear Case
Reuters ^ | 11/30/04 | Reuters

Posted on 11/30/2004 12:19:09 PM PST by Pikamax

Iran Boasts of Victory Over U.S. on Nuclear Case Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:34 PM ET

By Paul Hughes TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran boasted on Tuesday it had defeated U.S. efforts to send its nuclear case to the U.N. Security Council while warning that its uranium enrichment freeze would only last for a few months.

"The Americans have been calling for Iran to be reported to the Security Council for a year and a half, now the whole world has turned down America's calls," Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Hassan Rohani told a news conference.

"Despite the U.S. propaganda Iran has not relinquished its right to the (nuclear) fuel cycle and it never will do," said the cleric, who is secretary-general of Iran's top security body, the Supreme National Security Council.

His comments appeared to undermine European Union efforts to persuade Tehran to permanently mothball enrichment facilities -- which can be used to make atomic reactor fuel or nuclear bombs -- and were likely to fuel U.S. concerns that Iran secretly plans to produce nuclear weapons.

Iran, which insists its nuclear program is solely for electricity generation, on Monday escaped possible U.N. sanctions after agreeing to suspend all uranium processing and enrichment activities.

The EU hopes Iran will make the suspension permanent in return for trade deals and other incentives. But Tehran says the suspension is a voluntary and temporary measure designed to gain international trust.

"The length of the suspension will only be for the length of the negotiations with the Europeans and ... must be rational and not too long," Rohani said.

"We're talking about months, not years," he added.

The United States, which already has a ban on trade and investment with Iran, OPEC's second biggest oil producer, has voiced skepticism Iran will stick to the nuclear freeze and says it may take Iran's case to the Security Council on its own.

POSITIVE SIGN

Western diplomats have expressed growing frustration with Iran, which reneged on a similar suspension six months ago and wrangled over each step of negotiations on the current freeze.

But Rohani said Iran's talks with the EU over the nuclear issue were a positive sign to the world.

"This is a historical opportunity for Iran and Europe to prove to the world that unilateralism is condemned, that the world's most complicated matters can be solved by negotiation."

"Negotiations with Europe will be complicated, it won't be easy and will have lots of ups and downs," he added, warning: "If the Europeans do not show honesty, we will leave the talks."

"Europe wants objective guarantees that our enrichment activities won't be diverted to making weapons. How to implement this guarantee will be the most difficult part of the negotiations," he said.

The Iran-EU talks are due to resume on Dec. 15, by which time the two sides must resolve a dispute over 20 enrichment centrifuges which Iran wanted to exempt from the freeze.

Iran says it will not use the centrifuges to enrich uranium -- a process which can make atomic reactor fuel or bomb-grade material. But it wants to use them for other tests and research.

EU Foreign Policy Chief Javier Solana said Iran's nuclear freeze meant talks would resume on a trade and cooperation agreement. The talks have been on hold for more than a year due to the nuclear issue.

Rohani said the world had nothing to fear from Iran's nuclear facilities. "If we had wanted to make a nuclear bomb we would have made one in the last 20 years," he said. (Additional reporting by Amir Paivar and Christian Oliver)


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; iaea; iran; irannukes; proliferation; un

1 posted on 11/30/2004 12:19:09 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Iran is looking for a beatin'


2 posted on 11/30/2004 12:20:25 PM PST by Mr. K ((this space for rent))
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To: Pikamax; Mr. K

Ugh. I had heard a report that Iran is expert at hiding facilities deep underground and that the US and the Israelis are very concerned.

Another strike like the one in Iraq in 1981 may be in the offing.

If they can find the targets.


3 posted on 11/30/2004 12:22:06 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: Pikamax

This is further proof that the UN is nothing but a paper tiger when it comes to settling dangerous world matters. The UN and the EU are as useless as.........(you know the rest).


4 posted on 11/30/2004 12:23:13 PM PST by caisson71
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To: Pikamax
The mullahs continue to behave in an utterly demented fashion.

I cannot imagine what advantage they find in these last few months of behavior, or to what audience they think they are playing to.

5 posted on 11/30/2004 12:23:55 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Pikamax

DUH! If "diplomatic efforts" and the "involvement
of allies" fail, guess what comes next!?

And no, it won't be a single, 12-plane raid.
Can you say "Surround & Pound"? I knew
you could.

Which of the words "Surround & Pound"
don't these idiots understand?

MV


6 posted on 11/30/2004 12:24:44 PM PST by madvlad ((Born in the south, raised around the globe and STILL republican))
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To: Pikamax
Iran says it will not use the centrifuges to enrich uranium --

We all know that they just need these to use as cream separators in their version of the "Baby Milk Factory."

7 posted on 11/30/2004 12:24:47 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: Pikamax

The closer Iran gets to building a nuclear device the closer they come to their own destruction.

Here we have people who dont know when they are well off.


8 posted on 11/30/2004 12:25:10 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Pikamax

Fine, let Iran make it's bogus deals with the perpetual appeasers in the EU and UN.

The US should then in turn up it's support for the Iranian pro-Democracy movement and thus get new, rational Iranian leadership to deal with.

And if Iran continues it's support for terrorists, ALL bets are off. The US military will attack Iranian military hold-outs at the same time the pro-Democracy movement siezes power internally.


9 posted on 11/30/2004 12:25:12 PM PST by wvobiwan (Touchdown! Suckers walk...)
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To: snowsislander

What happened to all the students who were starting to protest their own government in Iran? For a while there I thought we were banking on a popular uprising against them.


10 posted on 11/30/2004 12:25:24 PM PST by Mr. K ((this space for rent))
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To: Pikamax

Good thing we have the EU on the case! If it wasn't for them, this might be a real problem. :^P


11 posted on 11/30/2004 12:25:56 PM PST by Imal (America looks shorter on TV.)
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To: Pikamax

Summary: Bomb us, I dare ya!


12 posted on 11/30/2004 12:27:55 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Pikamax
Someone wake me when we finally take Iran out behind the woodshed and beat them like a redheaded stepchild.

Those mullahs need to be rode hard and put away wet.

13 posted on 11/30/2004 12:28:17 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Mr. K

Yup, they certainly are. And with a big stick!


14 posted on 11/30/2004 12:28:30 PM PST by cweese
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To: Mr. K
What happened to all the students who were starting to protest their own government in Iran? For a while there I thought we were banking on a popular uprising against them.

They got no meaningful support and were left to die on the vine...just like the pro-Democracy students in China were betrayed in 1989.

15 posted on 11/30/2004 12:30:15 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Mr. K
What happened to all the students who were starting to protest their own government in Iran? For a while there I thought we were banking on a popular uprising against them.

The problem with relying on any type of internal resistance is sorting out the real ones from the intelligence folks -- and many of the loudest ones are agents provocateurs. We don't have time to engage is such a time-consuming endeavor -- Iran will very soon have the bomb, and even if there were a significant real resistance, counting on it alone would be unwise. Rebellions are uncertain endeavors, at best, and we just don't have time to see how one might play out in Iran.

16 posted on 11/30/2004 12:30:52 PM PST by snowsislander
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To: Prime Choice

Amen and right-on!!!!!!!


17 posted on 11/30/2004 12:30:57 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Pikamax; All
OK, ... U.S. will be exaggerating the aggreement so as not to get into an argument with the "e-3" (fr, gb, germany) for dropping the ball; Iran is downplaying it for the folks at home but...

why is iran being so vocal in its bragging, or, to quote #3,

Iran is looking for a beatin'

18 posted on 11/30/2004 12:33:07 PM PST by derheimwill (sorry, no tagline yet)
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To: cvq3842
Ugh. I had heard a report that Iran is expert at hiding facilities deep underground and that the US and the Israelis are very concerned.

100 years from now everyone and his brother will have nuclear weapons. Kinda boggles the mind.

19 posted on 11/30/2004 12:34:07 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Mr. K

The first bomb Iran will drop will be on Israel, and then the western media will blame Bush, Israel etc, so on. Ie. "Naw, those Mullahs would never do a thing like that!"


20 posted on 11/30/2004 12:34:21 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: snowsislander

Successful popular uprisings are mostly fantasy anyway.


21 posted on 11/30/2004 12:35:39 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian
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To: Pikamax

Iran's threshold for victory seems pretty low:

"America didn't kick our ass! We win! WE WIN!!"


22 posted on 11/30/2004 12:37:15 PM PST by Gefreiter ("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
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To: Aquinasfan

Unfortunately.


23 posted on 11/30/2004 12:38:49 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: Ashamed Canadian

It'll be an Iranian weapon delivered by terrorists.

Everyone will know it, but Iran will deny it.


24 posted on 11/30/2004 12:38:58 PM PST by Gefreiter ("Flee...into the peace and safety of a new dark age." HP Lovecraft)
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To: Pikamax

Iran has thrown the gauntlet. Time to lock n load. These idiots understand nothing better than death. Time for these leaders to experience it first hand. They are playing the appologist EU and UN for all they are worth (ooooo big surprise). I just can't figure out who is stupider, the Iranians, or the Appeasers. Or is it the lava-lampman?


25 posted on 11/30/2004 12:40:24 PM PST by Danae (Kill Terrorists. Negotiation is a waste of breath.)
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To: Mr. K

Smile for the birdie..........


26 posted on 11/30/2004 12:40:33 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("The right of the People to be Muttly shall not be infringed,")
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To: Gefreiter

all they need to do is wait a decade, all the while getting bennies for sitting on their reactors while threatening to restart them. Then hope for a DemocRAT victory in 2008 or 2012. See North Korea, Lessons Learned From the 90's - William J. Clinton, coming soon to Bamtam Books.


27 posted on 11/30/2004 12:41:25 PM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Pikamax

It seems that Iran is banking on the fact that the US has expended all of its international clout on the invasion of Iraq.

It's going to be a long year for Iran.

APf


28 posted on 11/30/2004 12:43:30 PM PST by APFel (Humanity has a poor track record of predicting its own future.)
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To: APFel

Still, they should know better. Are they that stupid or, have we finally found a purpose for MSM?


29 posted on 11/30/2004 12:49:09 PM PST by derheimwill (Here's my new tagline. Like it?)
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To: APFel

Sounds like a case for the Mossad!


30 posted on 11/30/2004 12:49:34 PM PST by princess leah (\)
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To: Pikamax
From the Europeans

"This is a historical opportunity for Iran and Europe to prove to the world that unilateralism is condemned, that the world's most complicated matters can be solved by negotiation."

From the Iranians

"Despite the U.S. propaganda Iran has not relinquished its right to the (nuclear) fuel cycle and it never will do," said the cleric, who is secretary-general of Iran's top security body, the Supreme National Security Council.

"The length of the suspension will only be for the length of the negotiations with the Europeans and ... must be rational and not too long," Rohani said.

"We're talking about months, not years," he added.

Is it me, or are these people having a completely different conversation. The Iranians are stating quite clearly they are going to restart their program and the Europeans are refusing to acknowledge anything they say. I believe that the EU wants Iran to have some nukes in their ongoing effort to destabilize US foreign policy.

31 posted on 11/30/2004 12:55:13 PM PST by usurper (Correct spelling is overrated)
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To: FreePaul

On Fox News yesterday, it was said that these gas centrifuges emit a huge amount of RF interference that whose signature can be detected and pinpointed from satellites. The guest on Fox said up to 12 centrifuges are up and operating simultaneously in various locations in Iran after the government there said they shut down enrichment as per the agreement with the EU. Iran just suckered the EU into providing more fuel to be used against them some time in the future! It also proved Iran is lying its @$$ off. Everyone known once they have nukes, they will use them, even if it means glorious martyrdom for all their citizens in a nuclear retaliation.


32 posted on 11/30/2004 12:56:15 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Pikamax

They should be concerned. The US doesn't mind having to shoulder the responsibility for the security of our friends and allies. They should be very concerned...


33 posted on 11/30/2004 1:51:27 PM PST by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: Pikamax

Unfortunately the mullahs now feel and talk as if they are on the saddle.


34 posted on 11/30/2004 4:24:30 PM PST by Reza2004
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