[IronJack]

One of the first things Burt Rutan and the SpaceShip One team had to do was get permission from the government to conduct their tests. Robert Goddard didn't need permission. The Wright brothers didn't need permission. And Wernher von Braun sure didn't need permission to launch V2's.

But thanks to a bureaucracy unmatched in history, one of the few forward thinkers of modern aviation has to go to some desk pilot hat in hand and ask permission to push back the frontiers of ignorance.

I feel safer already. And by the way, your "real world" sucks.

[NonZeroSum]

And by the way, your "real world" sucks.

It may, in many ways, but that doesn't change that fact that it's where we (at least some of us) have to live.